Talk:Devon and Somerset Fire and Rescue Service

Use of the title Brigade Manager
Wikipedia generically uses the term or title "Brigade Manager" to describe officers of the fire service whom have obtaied the rank of Cheif Fire Officer or County Fire Officer in the UK Fire Service.

The term or title "Brigade Manager" has not been widely accepted and does not reflect true accuracy. The term Cheif Fire Officer or Firemaster (in Scotland) should instead be used for clarity and to reflect accuracy


 * Fixed it for you. The template can now be set to use a different job title. --Cheesy Mike (talk) 19:26, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Combined
I did some work combining Somerset with Devon, for which no page existed previously. What I can't find at the moment is the name of the chief fire officer. I have got the full list of stations organised by type and by division/area. Some more photos would be nice - UK Geographs is a nice source of free-to-use images - if anyone is interested in uploading any. I hope my unilateral decision to get rid of the station addresses and postcodes was OK - they just didn't seem to add any value to the article. Some additional info about types of appliances would be nice. --Cheesy Mike 18:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

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 * Fair use rationale added. --Cheesy Mike 12:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Numbers on appliances
Why were all the callsign numbers added onto individual appliances? I really don't see the point of list these. Yes a reader might well be interested to learn that Cheddar has two appliances including the 6 wheel drive beastie, but I cannot see why they would be interested in the callsign - just as they wouldn't be interested in the individual vehicles registration numbers. Those callsigns aren't used in the media, they aren't listed on D&S's website and (as they therefore can't be verified) they aren't encyclopaedic. I agree with Sammidon and that's why I have removed them from the article. Let's have some consensus here before listing them again. --TimTay (talk) 21:48, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Well I now see that the callsigns can be verified, but I still don't think that they should be included. Furthermore I picked 10 UK fire service articles at random and not one had callsigns lists. In fact only one, Wiltshire, listed anything near the detail that is in this article. I'd never accuse anyone of being a trainspotter, but that's the way this article looks like it is going at the moment. --TimTay (talk) 21:54, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Per the request for opinions at Wikiproject Fire Service, I'd agree that such information is a violation of WP:INDISCRIMINATE and unnecessary. Jclemens (talk) 23:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with TimTay's comments; this is beginning to look messy and untidy. A URL can be placed on the page to direct those who wish to find out such information. Samiddon (talk) 22:12, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

Incidents
Not sure if it is or isn't encyclopedic...discuss. However, if is to be included I think the detail should be kept to a minimum...rewritten in the authors own words; but using the DSFRS newsdesk as a source. Not sure what value, having three or four incidents, is gained.Squirrel684 (talk) 23:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


 * ok i will just put one on there i put 4 on their because it is a busy night..Wrcf1 (talk) 00:11, 18 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Do you think it should have been delete ..Wrcf1 (talk) 21:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * TimTay makes a valid point that the Fire Service deals with thousands of incidents daily. The notable incidents such as the Buncefield oil terminal fire and the Gloucestershire and Oxfordshire floods should be included as they are, generally, unique and would be classed as encyclopedic. I would therefore agree that it probably shouldn't be included.Squirrel684 (talk) 07:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wrcf1 (talk • contribs) 13:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Appliances section
The whole appliances/equipment section is an unnecessary duplication of Fire apparatus and should be removed. Furthermore it is unreferenced. Comments? --TimTay (talk) 21:15, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I have added a source.Squirrel684 (talk) 21:19, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Urban Search and Rescue station number??
What is Urban Search and Rescues number?--Wrcf1 12:03, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Noticeable Incidents
anyone know of any more Noticeable Incidents.--Wrcf1 13:14, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

Image gallery deleted
I just deleted a gallery which was setup on the page. WP:Galleries makes it clear when galleries are suitable. This article already has a large number of images most of which illustrate the text within the article. There is no justification for a gallery. --Simple Bob (talk) 21:39, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

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