Talk:Dirawong

-- "In recent times we have made Aboriginal Elders think they are not so important. We spoof their stories and make them feel foolish. The truth is that we are ignorant of what is precious and how to appreciate age." in the Mythology section. Is this not.. off? Jookia (talk) 03:57, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

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http://funkman.org/animal/reptile/goanna.html

'''Question 1. Is the 'Goanna' or 'Dirawong' male, female or both??'''

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Background Data

Australians advise to lie down when Goanna runs at you, and remember get treated for her bite. (It is not poisonous but can cause sickness.)

Among native Australians, Goanna is considered to be lazy. They tell stories of how ingenious Goanna was in climbing trees to get bark to make a canoe for sailing to Australia. However, when industrious Goanna arrived, She became lazy. She stopped farming and started stealing food from Echidna instead.

However, when She is confronted, Goanna races out of danger. Her most noteworthy characteristic is her speed, which serves Goanna well. Like Goanna, we can explore but be prepared to race away when danger threatens.

'''Question 1. Why did the Dirawong withdraw from the battle with Rainbow Snake in order to recover?'''

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Background Data

"As Socrates explains in the Laches, standing firm in battle cannot be courage, for sometimes standing firm in battle is simply a foolish endurance that puts oneself and others at needless risk. The courageous person can recognize when it is reasonable to stand one's ground in battle and when it isn't."

'''Question 2. What virtuous traits of character is the Dirawong showing when it withdrew from the battle with Rainbow Snake in order to recover?'''

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Background Data

The Dirawong is showing in its action of withdrawing, that having (from a spiritual and psychological perspective) the right motives, aims, concerns, and perspective is more important then the tactical battle.

The Dirawong's motives were: to get help for its wounds (survive), to survey (location) where the rainbow snake went, concern for the bird (family); it knew that the Rainbow Snake may have won that day's battle, and in the future they will work together to create more land and rivers on other planets.

Physical identity of the Rainbow Snake

'''Question 1. What is the physical identity of the Rainbow Snake?'''

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Background Data

Land:

The Rainbow Snake quite possibly turned itself into one of the following; Kahors Reef aka 'North Evans Reef' (7.2 km from Evans Head), South Evans Reef (11 km from Evans Head), Fraser Island, Norfolk Island, Lord Howe Island or New Zealand.

Animal:

The Snake was quite possibly a "Wonambi naracoortensis" (a non-venomous snake of five to six metres in length), or a Bluff Downs Giant Python, (Liasis sp.), which grew up to ten metres long, and is the largest Australian snake known and it is at least a metre longer than the world's two longest snakes - the Anaconda of South America and the Reticulated Python of Asia.

Physical identity of the Dirawong

'''Question 1. What is the physical identity of the Dirawong?'''

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Background Data

History:

The Dirawong is a Creator Being spirit, and now known as Goanna Headland, which is located at Evans Head, New South Wales, Australia.

Land:

Australian Aboriginals from the Bundjalung Nation, believe that the Dirawong is Goanna Headland, which is located at Evans Head, New South Wales, Australia.

Animal:

The Dirawong was quite possibly a "Megalania prisca" (a carnivorous, goanna-like lizard, at least seven metres long, maybe ten metres long, and weighing up to 1,940 kilograms, that become extinct around 40,000 years ago. The first aboriginal settlers of Australia may have encountered living Megalania).

People:

Australian Aboriginals from the Bundjalung Nation, believe that the Dirawong is a mythical Creator Being spirit that looked like a Goanna but behaved just like humans, a hill/headland called 'Goanna Headland', the totem of one of the thirteen tribal groups comprising the Bundjalung Nation, and the spiritual belief system within the people of the Wiyaba tribal group.

Spiritual:

Australian Aboriginals from the Bundjalung Nation, believe that the Dirawong is a Creator Being, and now known as Goanna Headland, which is located at Evans Head, New South Wales, Australia.

Physical identity of the Bird

'''Question 1. What is the physical identity of the Bird?'''

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Background Data

Animal:

The Bird was quite possibly a "Dromornis stirtoni", (Stirton's Thunder Bird, Miocene epoch) was a flightless bird three metres tall that weighed half a tonne. It is one of the largest birds so far discovered. It inhabited subtropical open woodlands and may have been carnivorous. It was heavier than the Moa and taller than the Aepyornis.

Physical Features of the Evans river

Length = Approximately 20 km

Physical Features of the Richmond River

Length = Approximately 170 km

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Other Data To be Analyzed

When the first white people arrived, the Sunshine Coast Region was the territory of the Kabi-Kabi who had roamed over the land for thousands of years. Their country extended along the coast approximately from Ninghi Ninghi Creek near Toorbul Point to Rainbow Beach and possibly as far north as the mouth of the Mary River. To the west it included the catchment of the Mary River.

The Kabi people took their tribal name from Kabi, the pale honey of the eucalypt country, which was different from Kuta, the dark, strongly flavoured honey of the tea-tree scrub.

John Mathew included Fraser Island in the Kabi lands; but later Aborigines living there and in the Tin Can Bay area called themselves members of the Butchulla Tribe. The Butchulla (or Batjaia) people may possibly have been a clan of the Kabi-Kabi. The clan occupying the coastal strip from the Ninghi Ninghi Creek to the Noosa River are believed to have called themselves the Dalia people.

The Kabi Tribe appears to have comprised several clans or groups who normally moved within their respective portions of the tribal lands, coming together for special occasions such as bunya feasts and initiation ceremonies. These groups had a common language that differed in vocabulary from most of the words used by neighbouring tribes.

According to an early report, the Kabi men were on the average not as tall as white men, their range being from 5ft. 1 in. (1 55 cm.) to 6 ft. (183 cm.), with an average of 5ft. 5 in. (165 cm.). Under tribal conditions, they were well fed, healthy and vigorous. Their varied diet, nomadic life-style and practice of killing-off weaklings ensured that they remained a healthy tribe,,while their hunting and inter-tribal fighting kept them in good physical condition.

They did not remain healthy and vigorous for many generations after the coming of the white people. Too many were attracted by the hand-outs of sugar, flour, tobacco and grog. Some of the Kabi men fell before the guns of white men and black police. Some of the Kabi-Kabi from the Mary River district were poisoned in retaliation for the spearing of shepherds when they made a raid near Sheep Station Creek. Large numbers succumbed to the epidemics of mumps and other introduced diseases against which they had no degree of immunity. Many others took up the drinking of rum and other spirits with disastrous results.

Apart from a few stories, some place names on the map, an occasional oval scar on a tree where a canoe was cut out, a marked bora ring and several unmarked bora and midden sites, no evidence of their occupancy remains in the region.

The legendary tales have come down to us from a series of white people. The Aboriginal story-teller would have added facial and bodily gestures and voice inflection to a narrative that was sparing in words. In the re-telling by white people, additional words and phrases have been necessary, while occasional interpolations and omissions have produced different versions. In each case the version used in this book is the one that makes the best story while being consistent with what is known of the beliefs and customs of the Kabi people.

144.139.29.115 (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Other External Links To be Analyzed

http://www.aboriginalartonline.com/resources/articles2.php

http://docushare.lefevrehs.sa.edu.au:8080/docushare/dsweb/Get/Version-29571/dreamtime.doc

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144.139.29.115 (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.139.29.115 (talk) 12:36, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Periwinkles at the Midden site
There are plenty of periwinkles at the 'Bundjalung National Park' 'Midden Site' and, in order to remove meat from the shells, it is necessary either to break the shell or use a pointed instrument. None of the site has any evidence for the breakage of winkle shells, yet there is also an absence of obvious pointed tool pieces likely to have been used for winkle extraction. The question of how these shellfish were exploited is thus pertinent. The lack of tools suggests that expedient use of fish or bird bones may have taken place, though it is possible that deliberately made tools were also used.

--Hamilton36 (talk) 15:13, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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