Talk:Dock connector

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So how about a page for the ipod dock connector. I came here for a description of what all the 30 pins do.

from the ipod page: The third generation began including a 30-pin dock connector, allowing for FireWire or USB connectivity. This provided better compatibility with non-Apple machines, as most of them did not have FireWire ports at the time. Eventually Apple began shipping iPods with USB cables instead of FireWire, although the latter was available separately. As of the first generation iPod Nano and the fifth generation iPod Classic, Apple discontinued using FireWire for data transfer (while still allowing for use of FireWire to charge the device) in an attempt to reduce cost and form factor. As of the second-generation iPod Touch and the fourth-generation iPod Nano, FireWire charging ability has been removed.

And from http://www.tech-faq.com/ipod-dock-connector.shtml The ends of the connector each feature thirty pins which are designed to carry a variety of data. For example, pins two through six carry left and right audio while pins nineteen and twenty are responsible for supplying power via a Firewire connection.

It transports the Apple Accessory Protocol, http://nuxx.net/wiki/Apple_Accessory_Protocol, but that's independent of the physical layer.

Whoa, sorry, Just go here: http://nuxx.net/wiki/iPod_Dock_Connector

Wikipedia is being shown up by a personal website? for shame! 65.196.214.163 (talk) 22:09, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Propose MERGE with "Docking station"
The two Wikipedia articles, Dock connector and Docking station, seem to be - essentially - about the same topic so can / should (?) be easily merged. I'm not sure the connectors alone are notable enough to have an article independent of the "stations" (and vice-versa).Pugetbill (talk) 23:02, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Article expansion
I don't think I can generate the needed enthusiasm to do the research myself but I notice the Japanese Wikipedia article (https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dockコネクタ) includes a much more comprehensive list of mobile device "dock connectors" than is (currently) in this English language article. Perhaps more ambitious editors would be interested in expanding the English article? Personally, I would be interested in knowing which of the many 30-pin connectors are unique/proprietary and which are mutually compatible.


 * Apple Lightning (8 pin) connector
 * iRiver 18 pin dock connector
 * Olympus m:robe series 18 pin dock connector
 * Korean cell phone standard 20 pin dock connector, TTAS.KO-06.0028 (2007+)
 * Cowon iAudio 22 pin dock connector
 * Sony Walkman WM-Port 22 pin dock connector
 * Korean cell phone standard 24 pin dock connector, TTAS.KO-06.0028 (pre-2007)
 * Panasonic D-snap port (24 pin)
 * Microsoft Zune 24 pin dock connector
 * Tatung Elio 26 pin dock connector
 * Apple iPod (iPhone / iPad) 30 pin dock connector
 * Creative Zen 30 pin dock connector
 * SanDisk Sansa 30 pin dock connector
 * Philips GoGear 30 pin dock connector
 * Samsung Galaxy Note/Tab 30 pin dock connector
 * Portable Digital Media Interface (PDMI) (30 pin) connector, ANSI/CEA-2017
 * Dell Streak (PDMI) connector
 * Toshiba Gigabeat 40 pin dock connector
 * Sony NW-A1000/3000 42 pin multi-connector
 * Philips GoGear 30 pin dock connector
 * Samsung Galaxy Note/Tab 30 pin dock connector
 * Portable Digital Media Interface (PDMI) (30 pin) connector, ANSI/CEA-2017
 * Dell Streak (PDMI) connector
 * Toshiba Gigabeat 40 pin dock connector
 * Sony NW-A1000/3000 42 pin multi-connector
 * Sony NW-A1000/3000 42 pin multi-connector
 * Sony NW-A1000/3000 42 pin multi-connector

Pugetbill (talk) 16:26, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

Produced 2003, designed 2007?
The infobox for Apple's 30-pin declares it was "Produced 2003 - 2014(discontinued)" and "Designed 2007". If this is true, can we note why there's such a huge time gap between the first production and the first design? If it's false, can we change it to be more accurate? &mdash; Supuhstar * &mdash; 17:41, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

iPod Shuffle dock connector
A 4 connection 3.5mm minijack phono connector for iPod Shuffle (USB interface) is used on some of the docking units.

Idyllic press (talk) 18:53, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
 * [Apologies in advance if I have mis-interpreted or mis-understood the above iPod Shuffle dock connector statement or if the following comments otherwise miss the point.]
 * As a techno-geek, I am a big fan of the very versatile USB/analog audio TRRS connection (3.5mm headphone jack) used on 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation iPod shuffles. And I can think of some arguments that might support calling the related adapter(s) a "dock" - or expanding the scope of the "dock" concept to include such versatile adapters.  But, although Apple uses the word "Dock" to describe their 2nd generation iPod Shuffle USB/charging cradle, I don't think that dock/cradle is necessarily considered a "dock" in the way this article currently uses the word.  i.e. this article describes a dock as something used to, "…attach a mobile electronic device simultaneously to multiple external resources.…"   It seems (to me) the shuffle's dock (2nd gen) and USB cable (3d/4th gen) is more of a single-function USB "adapter" cable.  i.e. it is a passive adapter with standard USB-A 2.0 (4 wire) connector on one end and a standard TRRS (4 wire) connector on the other end.  The specific "pinout" (that defines which USB pins/wires are connected to which parts of the TRRS) is non-standard, but the cradle's 3.5mm TRRS connector functions as a USB-B connector when the USB-A end of the cable is attached to a standard USB device.
 * The 3.5mm TRRS socket on 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation iPod shuffles is very versatile and supports more than one type of connection (USB and analog audio) - but not more than one type of connection simultaneously. i.e. it will function EITHER as a USB port when connected to the appropriate USB-A to TRRS cable OR it will act as a 'normal' analog audio headphone jack when connected to standard headphones ('standard' audio signals being, audio L, audio R, and ground).  But there is no iPod shuffle dock that would support both USB data and analog audio connections simultaneously.
 * Pugetbill (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The 3.5mm TRRS socket on 2nd, 3rd and 4th generation iPod shuffles is very versatile and supports more than one type of connection (USB and analog audio) - but not more than one type of connection simultaneously. i.e. it will function EITHER as a USB port when connected to the appropriate USB-A to TRRS cable OR it will act as a 'normal' analog audio headphone jack when connected to standard headphones ('standard' audio signals being, audio L, audio R, and ground).  But there is no iPod shuffle dock that would support both USB data and analog audio connections simultaneously.
 * Pugetbill (talk) 15:26, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

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