Talk:Don Miguel Ruiz

Objectivity issue
In my opinion this article sounds like Ruiz´s promo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.195.170.122 (talk) 22:01, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.194.50.198 (talk) 21:30, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Thirded. This should be flagged for review and edited. 24.4.174.146 (talk) 08:20, 14 May 2014 (UTC)

Honorifics in article title
I'm reluctant to do this unilaterally (and run the risk of offending religious sensitivities that I probably don't understand), but I suspect this article should be at Miguel Ruiz with the first line reading:
 * Don Miguel Ruiz...

Like we do for
 * The Right Honourable Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill...

–Hajor 23:49, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yes, definitely, make it so. RickK 23:56, Aug 18, 2004 (UTC)

I think this would be fine, but I have found from the What Links Here function that there is also a boxer named Miguel Ruiz. I think that having the article named Don Miguel Ruiz, which is the name by which he is usually known, would be a good way to separate those articles. Academic Challenger 22:16, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'd lean more towards Miguel Ruiz (shaman) and Miguel Ruiz (boxer), but if he does do business and publish as Don Miguel Ruiz then maybe there's a case for moving it back: Don Juan Matus has set that precedent. (I think having the "Don" not bold in the first line is a good way of driving home the fact that it's an honorific, not part of the name.) My apologies, forget I ever spoke, I recuse myself from further consideration of the matter. –Hajor 01:58, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)


 * There certainly is precedent for including an honorific in an article title. For another example, see U Thant. -- SwissCelt 20:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Copyrighted material
"He went to medical school and was a surgeon until a near-death experience impelled him to seek answers in ancestral traditions of the Toltec in which his mother was a curandera (healer), and his grandfather a nagual (shaman) who, after death, continued to teach Ruiz in his dreams."
 * This appears to have been lifted directly from the 'about author' sections of his books. Ka&#39;Jong (nsPM) 18:16, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Now removed, verbatim repetition of publisher's blurbs are not appropriate here.--cjllw ʘ  TALK 08:41, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Last Name
Vasquez is not mentioned in his books or at his website, see http://www.miguelruiz.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=section&layout=blog&id=2&Itemid=3. Ka&#39;Jong (nsPM) 18:06, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Formatting of the 5th agreement
Anyone know how to resume a previous numbered list (or restart numbering at 5?) to format Be Skeptical in the same format as 1-4?--Nonnb (talk) 13:33, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I fixed it as best as I could using exactly what I'm using right now, the colon (":"). I hope people find it satisfying. &bull; H☼&omega;d&Theta;esI&dagger;fl&notin;&isin;   {KLAT}  &bull; 16:20, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Eagle-Knight lineage
This sentence was in the article when I found it:


 * He has handed the Eagle-Knight lineage over to his son Don José Luis.

This didn't make any sense to me, so I searched around and found the Eagle warrior page, which I thought might be helpful. On Google, the eagle knight lineage seems to be a big deal for some people, so I'm not sure if I got it quite right. Any clarification on this would be helpful. --ESP (talk) 15:38, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

advertisement
A large portion of this article reads like a advertisement, added by this anon:

It was probably written by Ruiz or an employee of Ruiz. WP:DUCK

I am attempting to rewrite it.

Thewhitebox (talk) 12:09, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Fraud
"Toltec" Carlos Castaneda has been exposed as a fraud. IIRC, Ruiz's "ancient" teachings are also a fabrication. Anyone want to research and document that?-- &#123;&#123;U&#124;Elvey&#125;&#125; (t•c) 06:59, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was: page moved. &#123;&#123;U&#124;Elvey&#125;&#125; (t•c) 18:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Let's move Miguel Ángel Ruiz → Don Miguel Ruiz – per policy - WP:NAMINGCRITERIA - evidence : article says this is what he goes by, and it's true. There's a redirect, so an admin needs to do the move. Despite, there's been no move so far. &#123;&#123;U&#124;Elvey&#125;&#125; (t•c) 06:59, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

(Weird, it's been moved, but there's no record of it in the move log, which is empty. Even after a page reload.  The contribs log of the mover, OTOH, shows 4 page moves(!) )-- &#123;&#123;U&#124;Elvey&#125;&#125; (t•c) 18:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Locking the page for controversial figure
I suspect that changes to this page should be watched as it is about the head of a new religious movement with millions of followers and who has allegations of abuse against him.

Health Issues
It’s quite common that popular authors include a section on health related issues when significant. His book, The Toltec Art of Life and Death, along with his website acknowledges his heart attack in 2002. Also, this articles from a local San Diego publication, discussed his most recent heart transplant in 2022. Vin156r (talk) 09:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)