Talk:Douglas Albert Munro

USCGC Munro
The USCG page says, "A cutter, the USCGC Munro, was commissioned in his honor in 1944, and the name has remained in commission ever since." The Coast Guard doen't seem to have anything on this ship, and all Google seems to have are echoes of Wikipedia. Is this a mistaken reference to the Navy ship, USS Douglas A. Munro (DE-422)?&mdash;wwoods 22:25, 19 May 2005 (UTC)


 * CGC Munro, WHEC 724 is homeported at Coast Guard Island, Alemeda, Ca. Info from CG Site. Contact 510-437-3710.
 * RJones 05 MAy 2005


 * There certainly is now a cutter Munro: USCGC Munro (WHEC-724). She was commissioned in 1971, and is still on active service. http://www.uscg.mil/pacarea/Munro/History.html
 * And there certainly was a ship named in Munro's honor, and commissioned in 1944: USS Douglas A. Munro (DE-422), a Navy destroyer escort. She was decommissioned 24 June 1960. http://www.history.navy.mil/danfs/d5/douglas_a_munro.htm


 * But was there an earlier cutter? The Coast Guard's website doesn't list one (http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-cp/history/CutterList.html). GABaker mentions an article in "Coast Guard Magazine", which sounds like a good source, but I can't help thinking there's some confusion here. (Well, I know I'm confused.)
 * &mdash;wwoods 07:22, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
 * During WWII, the common practice was “USS CG” or just “USS.” After the war, we received the right to separately identify our own vsls as such (USCGC).4.246.120.29 (talk) 04:39, 30 April 2008 (UTC)Andering J REDDSON (USCG BM³ Reserve).

It is taught in Coast Guard boot camp that Douglas A. Munro is the only member of the US Coast Guard to receive the Medal of Honor. However Marcus A. Hanna received it as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.31.221.110 (talk) 23:28, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * To comment on the above post; Marcus A. Hanna did receive a Medal of Honor during his time as a lighthouse keeper, however it was awarded for his service while serving in the Army during the Civil War. Cuprum17 (talk) 17:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The Wiki bio for Marcus A. Hanna (per the link above) says nothing about a Medal of Honor award. In fact, it states that during his Civil War service (in a militia unit) he did not see action. Nor is he noted as ever being in the Coast Guard (or the lighthouse service). Are there two Marcus Hanna's...Engr105th (talk) 05:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Try this link: Marcus Hanna (lighthouse keeper). This is the Marcus Hanna that was the lighthouse keeper. The link I posted above is in error but I believe that someone has installed a disambiguation link that needed some work. Cuprum17 (talk) 18:44, 10 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Got it - thanks for clarifying ! Engr105th (talk) 03:38, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Picture
Hey Whats wrong with having the picture of Douglas Munro's actions ?
 * I added the painting of the action. It is the only depiction that I have personally seen regarding Munro's exploits or the U.S. Coast Guard from that collection. Tjlynnjr (talk) 08:03, 28 July 2013 (UTC).


 * The painting's original title was "Douglas A. Munro Covers the Withdrawal of the 7th Marines at Guadalcanal" and was painted by artist Bernard D'Andrea for the U.S. Coast Guard Bicentennial Celebration, 1990. USCG Historian color image (official) Munro action. Official Coast Guard painting of Munro's last moments while evacuating Marines at Guadalcanal. Retrieved: 13 July 2014. Semper Paratus Tjlynnjr (talk) 20:12, 13 July 2014 (UTC).

Petty Officer Munros citizenship
PO. Munro was not naturalized, according to the 1930 US census. His parents were both U.S. citizens living abroad, so Munro was a U.S. citizen at birth. Following are some conflicting sources:


 * U.S. House of Representatives, Committee on Transportation and Infastructure.
 * Fact Sheet HR 2611 – A bill to designate the United States Coast Guard Headquarters the “Douglas A. Munro Coast Guard Headquarters Building”. "Background...He became a U.S. citizen in 1922." Retrieved: 13 July 2014.


 * Canadian Winners (sic) of the United States Medal of Honor. Friends of the Canadian War Museum (FCWM-AMCG)  "...born...in Vancouver, BC, to American parents." Retrieved: 13 July 2014.
 * USCG Historian's Office says born Vancouver, BC of US parents. Retrieved: 13 July 2014.
 * Congressional Record PROCEEDINGS AND DEBATES OF THE 113th CONGRESS, FIRST SESSION Vol. 159 WASHINGTON, TUESDAY, JULY 16, 2013 No. 101 DOUGLAS A. MUNRO COAST GUARD HEADQUARTERS BUILDING H4494-H4495 Source says born in Canada of American parents, no mention of naturalization.

NB: My Google search words Was Douglas Albert Munro a U.S. citizen ?.

Summary. He is a Yank. The USCG Historians site features images of PO Munros official service record. The evidence there is clear and detailed. PO Munroe would have had a part in the preparation of the documents. His parents probably reported the birth of a U.S. citizen abroad or words to that effect, at the U.S. Consulate in Vancouver, BC. Finally, there are three ways to do something...the right way...the wrong way...and the Coast Guard way, I personally roll with the Coast Guard way. Semper Paratus Tjlynnjr (talk) 19:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC).

USMC at USCG Recruit Graduations
USCG recruit trainng is modeled on USMC recruit training rather than US Navy Recruit Training. During the 1960's USMC Drill Instructors conducted USCG Recruit Training. Because of Douglas A. Munro's actions, a representative of the Commandant USMC attends the graduation of every USCG Recruit Training Class.


 * Cite your source. Saying it is different than proving it and that's what's needed for Wikipedia. --McChizzle (talk) 01:22, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Ranks
During WW II the first three rates in the Navy were seaman 3rd class, seaman 2nd class, and seaman first class. I'm pretty sure this held for the Coast Guard, too, so perhaps they should be changed here.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.184.247 (talk) 17:30, 25 March 2019 (UTC)