Talk:Dream sequence

History of Dream Sequence
Perhaps we could add more about the history of the dream sequence specific to film, such as: The first dream sequence in a film is more contested [1]. Film critic, Bob Mondello, says that the first famous movie with a dream sequence was Buster Keaton’s Sherlock, Jr. (1942) [2], but James Walter notes G.A. Smith’s use of a dream sequence in Let Me Dream Again (1900) [1], and Leslie Halpern claims that the earliest dream sequence was in Edwin S. Porter’s The Life of an American Fireman (1903)[1].


 * 1) Walters, James. Chapter 2 of Alternative worlds in Hollywood Cinema : resonance between realms.
 * 2) Rabin, Staton. "Dream, Vision or Fantasy?". Script (10922016); Jul/Aug2011, Vol. 17 Issue 4, p66-68, 3p.

The Rock Band
"DREAM SEQUENCE is a new wave synth rock band from southern california."

If we can confirm that this band is notable, it should have its own page, and we can add a header to this page to direct folks there. One way or another, though, this sentence needs to be removed from this article. Anyone have any thoughts? Sairen42 20:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, I did a quick Google search for "Dream Sequence" and no Southern Californian band appears on the first two pages. That, combined with the fact that the article about them said "who we are, leads me to conclude that this is more vanity than a legitimate entry about a notable band. If you disagree, we can certainly chat about notability and how to proceed. But for now, I'm cutting the sentence above. Sairen42 20:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Oklahoma!
The main list is for films, which inherently makes it miss out on one of the most famous dream sequences of all time -- the huge ballet scene from Oklahoma!. I'd add it but I'm not sure how to restructure the article -- rename the main list, or add a list for non-film dream sequences. Maybe there are other options. Anybody got an idea? -- The Realms of Gold (talk) 07:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Literature
This article desperately needs to address dream sequences in literature, as well as in film, as they were used there long before the advent of cinema. It is a significant weakness in this article. --Visionthing (talk) 19:54, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I've tagged the article for cleanup in this manner. I was surprised and disappointed to discover that The Pilgrim's Progress isn't addressed here; it's probably the most significant example of this motif, at least in the long run, as it's been in continuous printing for more than three hundred years, and the whole book is a dream sequence.  Nyttend (talk) 15:34, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
 * A Christmas Carol is another example of dream sequences in literature MarjonW (talk) 06:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

A Confusing Explanation
I was reading the article, when I encountered this part: "This is akin to the technique wherein a dream sequence is a plot device in which an entire story has been revealed to be a dream. As opposed to a segment of an otherwise real scenario, in these cases it is revealed that everything depicted was unreal."

What exactly was the original editor trying to do here? The sentences I put in quotation marks are located beneath an example of a dream sequence that appears in Bring It On, which involved a pep rally. Was the Bring It On example supposed to be connected to the sentences (This is akin to the technique wherein a dream sequence is a plot device in which an entire story has been revealed to be a dream) I quoted?

(As opposed to a segment of an otherwise real scenario, in these cases it is revealed that everything depicted was unreal.) This part confused me. Was the editor saying that the segment is a part of cases where the dream sequence isn't the entire film, and just a sequence based on events that occur in a character's objective reality?

(An otherwise real scenario,) What did they mean by an "otherwise real scenario?" Is the reality outside of the dream sequence fully real or not? Finally, isn't that comma supposed to be a period?

Would it make more sense if the parts I've been talking about looked more like this:

'''...as exemplified by the opening sequence of Bring It On where a pep rally with irreverent routines builds into an abnormal moment where a character is revealed topless; she then wakes up to the viewers' realization that she had been dreaming. This is akin to the technique wherein a dream sequence is a plot device in which an entire story has been revealed to be a dream as opposed to a segment of an otherwise real scenario. In these cases it is revealed that everything depicted was unreal. Often this is used to explain away otherwise inexplicable events.'''

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Haazen01 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 16 April 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't want to comment on what the text should say, but amongst other stories that are mostly or entirely a dream are "The Wizard of Oz", Judy Garland film version - the original book is in the form of a realistic fairy tale - and "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland", where it's retrospectively clear that Alice is dreaming when a talking White rabbit appears. But this is mainly because she wakes up at the end, although many events in the dream part of the story are as inconsistent as dreams often are, fictional dreams anyway.  I'd say that the opening of "Bring It On" as you describe it does amount to the entire story so far being a dream, but evidently it differs by being an interlude to the actual plot, if "interlude" can be applied to an opening scene.  If I'm looking at the right thing, Wikipedia's plot summary doesn't mention it.  IMDB says, "Torrance Shipman (Kirsten Dunst) anxiously dreams about her first day of senior year."  It sounds pretty wild, and I would bet money that it was included in the trailer.  94.197.146.95 (talk) 20:21, 12 October 2022 (UTC) rja.carnegie@gmail.com

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