Talk:Dual inheritance theory

Criticism

 * The pdf linked here has good review of many of the criticisms and critics of DIT - many of which are now in the new "criticisms" section. The "criticisms" section would likely benefit from a distinction between the semantic arguments against DIT (that certain words should or should not be used to explain processes in DIT) and substantive arguments (whether actual processes do or do not occur). http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/anthro/faculty/boyd/HenrichBoydRichersonHumNat08.pdf 67.166.158.234 (talk) 08:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * I could not find a copy of the Kaufman article online. Though its short abstract seems to be a review of another article cited. 67.166.158.234 (talk) 08:26, 25 May 2011 (UTC)


 * This theory is highly controversial among social scientists, historians, etc. A "criticsm" section would be very helpful. Unfortunately, while many of the component concepts of dual inheritance theory have been refuted by sociologists and anthropologists, I don't know anyone who's actually written a rebuttal of the theory as a whole. Combining separate, otherwise unrelated critiques in a wikipedia article could constitute original research, so we'd have to find an article specifically adressing it. If anyone knows of somebody who's written on this it would be nice to plug in a section covering the other viewpoints. 85.154.169.140 (talk) 10:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * It's inaccurate to say "researchers in both fields [meaning sociology and anthropology] often treat culture as a static superorganic entity that dictates human behavior". The only citation is Gintis, and the only reference I can find in his work is on page 2, asserting that both "treat culture in a static manner that belies its dynamic and evolutionary character", which is not the same thing.  Additionally, Gintis does not back this assertion up with any evidence or citations.  To conform to NPOV standards, I will change this to "evolutionary economist Herb Gintis has argued that..." --76.20.46.30 (talk) 19:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * (to above coment) This is also a vast oversimplification of both disciplines. The theories that are currently becoming dominant in anthropology are in direct contradiction to this statement. (See Structure and agency for information on the current debate.) The statement identifying culture as a "superorganic" entity appears to be a direct reference to Alfred Radcliffe-Brown's structural functionalism, which hasn't been the dominant theory in anthropology for over 50 years. It seems to me that "Gentis" or whoever originally wrote this criticism of anthropology and sociology doesn't actually have a background in the disciplines and is arguing primarily from a stereotypical understanding of the fields. I'd go as far as to argue that the presence of these critiques in the article without a proper rebuttal constitutes a bias. 85.154.169.140 (talk) 09:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


 * The following sentence appears in that part of the Criticism section which relates to the need for DIT to show that cultural inheritance is "sequestered" by the biotic genome:
 * "Why this is a demand of critics, however, can be considered unclear as it refutes none of the central claims laid down by proponents of DIT."


 * The statement appears illogical. I cannot see that critics are in any way obliged to refute chosen predicates or claims in order for their criticism to be valid.  Valid criticism can relate to inferred or subordinate predicates/theories/constructs etc. or to the constructs of the predicates or claims themselves.  Surely whether DIT proponents consider this sequestering relevant to the theory or not, determines neither whether others see it in the same way nor the validity of that dissenting opinion.  I would like to simply delete the sentence or else would appreciate someone demonstrating the logical fallacy here. LookingGlass (talk) 07:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Move (agreed)
With accordance to Naming conventions, I think this should be moved to dual inheritance theory. Are there any reasons why it should have a long and capitalized name? Also, this needs a lead section.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Moving right now. Daniel Case 00:55, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


 * I made the article, and I agree that this should be moved to dual inheritance theory. I just moved it!

a very good start

 * This is a very good start, extremely clear, and concise presentation of a complicated field. Covers all the critical points and organizes them in a logical manner -- this is extremely useful for introducing students to this field. Kimhill2 (talk) 00:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I would like note and thank Pete Richerson of UCDavis for his help in creating this article. EPM 22:10, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Separating cultural evolution and DIT
The cultural evolution part of this should be split off into its own article, and the DIT article should discuss only those processes and findings related to the interaction between biological and cultural evolution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.137.201 (talk) 08:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The Dual Inheritance Theory is not the same as Gene-Culture Coevolution theory and this article should be edited to reflect this comparison. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:5:A000:8C97:5AA8:14A4:F565 (talk) 19:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Biocultural evolution
"Biocultural evolution" seems to simply be a synonym for gene-culture coevolution/dual inheritance theory. I suggest we merge that article into this. joe&bull;roet&bull;c 19:53, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. I've seen "dual inheritence" more than "biocultural." — Æµ§œš¹  [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ]  00:20, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ joe&bull;roet&bull;c 08:54, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

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Hi everyone. I'm going to try and help develop this page as an assignment. I've had some pointers on where to go with it already from Joe Roe (thanks a lot!), with the general gist to make it more about DIT rather than just cultural evolution. I was going to start by aiming to elaborate on 'Social learning and cumulative cultural evolution' section, looking to expand on the conditions for social learning and add how gene and culture interacted to kick-start the cumulative cultural evolution process. Drawing the line on what should go into the cultural evolution page, and what should go here seems to be one of the main challenges, but I look forward to it!

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