Talk:Duke of Leinster

FitzGerald
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Dukes of Leinster are called "FitzGerald", not "Fitzgerald". I suppose all the pages should be edited and moved. Proteus 15:53 GMT, 15th January 2004

the arms
The coat of arms shown has a viscount's coronet. Is that because all the higher titles are Irish? &mdash;Tamfang 02:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm teach me to run this with gfx disabled. It is possible that the Duke sought a(n) (English) grant of arms as he may never have had any previous grant. The Irish titles existing before grants were normal so likely assumed some time around the original titles. However I can't find anything to say so. Would be very interesting to know if Garter would only grant Arms according to English titles and Ulster Irish etc [This] suggests that the form we expect exists but under what grant.Alci12 20:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Family trees from the 1st creations
I have lots of research on these specific (1st & 2nd creation) ancestries. (Genealogies; Coronets; ribbons; lozenge; arms, & etc), although it may take me some time, I can re-create genealogical trees of most of the (1st creation) descendants/ancestors, if required &/or requested??? Stephen2nd (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Irish Constitution
@SeoR just starting a talking point on this page so users can discuss this matter. You claimed that the Irish Constitution does not prohibit the continued existence of titles of nobility sourced from a foreign invasion. Could you read Article 40 and come back to me about that?

Can I pick your brain about a few other things, as it seems we have different opinions on the connection between "Duke of Leinster" and the current, independent status of Leinster.

You said: "the peerage titles flow from the Crown in another country, and are regulated by patents controlled by the law of that country. They have little or no official standing in Ireland, but they exist."

What specific patents for so-called peers of Ireland are you refering to? What "little" bit of standing do these titles have in Ireland?

I just think it's illogical to claim a title on foreign, sovereign land. Wikiejd2 (talk) 08:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I'm fairly certain it's pronounced /ˈlɛn.stər/. [https://youglish.com/pronounce/Leinster/english/ie? Here] are some Irish folks saying it. 68.193.141.193 (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)corpho

Split proposed
Does the present (9th) duke, Maurice FitzGerald, warrant his own article? His information, while relevant, seems excessive here. Feargal27 (talk) 13:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi. Have you read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maurice FitzGerald, 9th Duke of Leinster? Guliolopez (talk) 20:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Hi . Given that the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maurice FitzGerald, 9th Duke of Leinster was "redirect" (and the closing admin noted that the relevant sources related to the subject's title rather than the subject individually), you'll have to set out a specific argument for (now) recreating a standalone article. If something has changed (to the extent that consensus and AfD outcome needs review), then please consider setting-out what that might be. Otherwise, if the issue is that there is too much biographical detail on an individual title holder, then perhaps we should summarise it. Rather than (re)creating a standalone article. I have already summarised some of the content in that section. As it appears to relate to the career of the subject's brother. Where such content already can-be/should-be/is covered in the related biographical article. I'm personally not seeing an argument to override the (relatively recent?) AfD outcome... Guliolopez (talk) 11:03, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * As it's now been over a month, and as there hasn't been any elaboration or update/change to consensus (over the previous AfD), I've removed the split tag. As it doesn't link to an "active" multi-party discussion. (I say that as I've been "talking to myself" for that month or so :) ). Guliolopez (talk) 10:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)