Talk:Dutch colonization of the Americas

Chili?
The "Chili" section is a mess. Is this supposed to refer to the country of Chile? In any event, could someone knowledgable fix it? I would, but I know next to nothing on this topic. --Polynova 05:07, August 1, 2005 (UTC)


 * Yes it is. Chili is Dutch for Chile. Peter Maas 14:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

"purchased" ?
The acquisition of Manhattan island is referred to as a "purchase", within quotes, as if there was something fishy about it. I have never heard of anything fishy going on during the transaction, so I think it would require a generally accepted source and explanation, if the deal was not all above board. --Lokimaros 16:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I think the deal with the quotes is that the Indians did not regard it as a purchase. Supposedly their view of the transaction is that the Dutch gave them gifts, and then they gave the Dutch use of the land (i.e., continued use of the land would be dependent on continued good will between the two groups).  &mdash; Laura Scudder &#9742; 17:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Needs a map
This article needs a map similar to most other "Colonization in America" articles. --CPAScott (talk) 16:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Image reflected disputed material
The image on main page is listed disputed material from the Dutch Empire discussion forms. The areas in Acadia were never practically held by the Dutch, as stated in this article, and therefore should be removed. -Kirkoconnell (talk) 21:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * While I agree that Dutch Acadie should not be included on the map since it was never effectively held, there should be at least some mention of it in this article and in “Dutch Empire”, in its appropriate circumstance and context, to provide information to readers. Askari Mark (Talk) 00:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

More territories in the Caribbean Sea
Hi, This is my first message here; I hope I comply with all the rules.

We are sailing through the Caribbean and found more Dutch settlements/territories than listed in this article:

1. Isla Aves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Aves even lists it as being claimed by the Dutch. There's not much here, no settlements, currently a Venezuelan military station (if one could call it that).

The above has almost the same name as the next, but they are completely different islands:

2. Las Aves Archipelago, Isla Larga. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islas_Las_Aves lists Isla Larga but doesn't refer to any history. There are still remains of a Dutch fort there. It provided defense for the islands of Bonaire and Curacao. This is also the site of the famous Dutch victory over the French which is cited on the referenced link only as "major naval disaster in 1678, when a French fleet commanded by Admiral Jean d'Estrees was wrecked on the reefs of Aves de Barlovento."

3. Tortuga, Haiti. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortuga references the Dutch colonists.

Also, we found many islands where Dutch pirates had their settlements but I don't think that counts as colonization? Anyway, here they are:

1. Cayos Hollandaises is a small group of islands in the San Blas (Panama) Several Dutch pirates & privateers made this their home.

2. Bluefields in Nicaragua got it's name from Dutch pirate Abraham Blauvelt as referenced here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluefields

DeVerm (talk) 14:43, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Barbados was another one that was suspected of being on the verge of becoming Dutch. Sir William Courteen had an Anglo-Dutch heritage and began robust trade between Barbados and the Dutch isles leading to England's blockade of Barbados' harbour.  I don't read Dutch to read old documents to uncover the extent to which the Dutch were said to have financed the founding of Barbados via William Courteen but because of his Dutch heritage, England is thought to have gave Barbados to Lord Carlisle instead who started a brand new settlement in Bridgetown to replace Courteen's port at Holetown. The Dutch Jews were whom introduced sugarcane to Barbados originally.  To this day one can still see the ruins of many Dutch style windmills dotting the countryside of Barbados which were introduced to Barbados by the Dutch. CaribDigita (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

New Netherland
Though the info in this section is interesting it gives a rathered scattered view of North American colonialization. The fact that the Tri-State Region, the heart of the colony aound Upper New York Bay and the Hudson Valley is so vaguely hanlded does not not do justice to the substance of the beginnnings of the metropolitan area it would become. Will continue to expand and clarify.Djflem (talk) 10:19, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Map of the Americas
The article does not reference any reliable sources that validate or distinguish the claim of certain locations in present day Chile being part of the Dutch Empire either as colonies, territories, trading posts, or other. Selecciones de la Vida (talk) 18:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Were they really Dutch?
Were the historically supposed Dutch who colonized the Americas real germanic Dutch or were they jews who historians call Dutch? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.99.132.30 (talk) 15:27, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:ENGVAR
Well, this is a little more challenging than most. The namespace for the first edit is obviously AmE; it was a stub, though, and the first nonstub was BrE; but that edit kept the AmE title. Given that the topic does directly relate to the history of the USA and the namespace is much more obvious, I'm on the side of maintaining consistent American English but open if there's reasonable consensus going the other way. — LlywelynII  17:57, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Dutch settlements
There should be a place here (or even a separate page) for the colonies of Dutch settlers that created places like Holland, Michigan, and Pleasureville, Kentucky. It wasn't gov't organized or on the scale of New Netherland but it wasn't nothing either. — Llywelyn II   07:38, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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