Talk:Eça de Queiroz

Untitled
I've added a list of works, and I promise to add English translations of the titles (unless someone else does it first!) Andrew Dalby 20:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC) Well, I've done it now. I'm in the process of moving the information on film and television adaptations to articles on the relevant novels, leaving just a summary here. Hope no one disapproves. Andrew Dalby 21:11, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Ilegitimate?
I was just on the Biblioteca Nacional site where a bioigraphy of Eça is available and there is NO mention of him being illegitimate. also, the portuguese article makes no reference of this. Where did this come from? Galf 10:34, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * If I originally added this information (I can't remember), it comes from a goodish source (or, actually, more than one source). I don't think there is serious doubt, but since you ask, I'll check and name a source. Anyway, what does the BN site say? That he was legitimate? Or doesn't discuss it at all? And rew D alby  14:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The BN site states that the parents are " Filho natural do juiz José Maria de Almeida Teixeira de Queirós, então delegado do procurador régio em Ponte de Lima, e de Carolina Augusta Pereira de Eça" can be found here: http://purl.pt/93/1/biobibliografia/1845.html and matches perfectly his name, recieving both mother and father's last name. So I don't understand how or why he is thought to be illegitimate. I'd like to add, that if he in fact was I have NO problem with it being on the article, one of Portugal's most loved kings was illegitimate Galf 15:12, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you will find that "filho natural" is an old-fashioned euphemism for "son born outside marriage". He got both names because Carolina Augusta Pereira de Eça and José Maria de Almeida Teixeira de Queirós married soon after he was born, and legitimized him. So the only question at issue is, what was his real parentage?
 * Yes, I am sure now that the editor concerned was me. The source was a detailed biographical article which I read online. According to this article, he is officially registered as the son of Teixeira de Queirós and an unknown mother (the BN article may not say this, but I think it is certainly true). The writer argued that it is far more likely he was the son of Carolina Eça and an unknown father; Teixeira de Queirós generously agreed both to marry Carolina Eça and to register her son as his own, thus sparing her the stigma of having borne an illegitimate child.
 * I will try to find the article again and reference it. And rew D alby  15:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The Fundação Eça de Queiroz gives this account, citing (Adaptado de: MATOS,A.C. (1988) "Diccionário de Eça de 			Queiroz", Ed. Caminho)


 * 1845 					Nasce José Maria de Eça de 					Queiroz, na Póvoa de Varzim. Filho natural do magistrado  					José Maria de Almeida Teixeira de Queiroz e D. Carolina  					Augusta Pereira de Eça, é registado como filho de mãe  					incógnita. Baptizado em Vila do Conde, viverá até 1855 em  					Verdemilho, em casa dos avós paternos, apesar de o casamento  					dos seus pais se ter realizado quatro anos depois do seu  					nascimento.


 * Which means that while he was born out of wedlock his parents would marry when he was 4, which also explains why he lived with the father's parents until he was 10. I think the article should reflect this.Galf 16:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Filho Natural, as far as I know is just that natural-born descendent, the opposite of adopted. Up until the 1960s in Portugal, "true" illegitimate sons would be registers as "filho de pai incognito" "son of unknown father" and usually stay with the single mother or maternal grandparents. My mother is into Genealogy and old birth records, I'll check with her Galf 16:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I am glad to see that your citation confirms my memory, that he was registered as the son of an unknown mother. His complicated personal history is to some extent reflected in his work, notably O crime do Padre Amaro. And rew D alby  16:38, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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