Talk:Ebro

Name
Is this Iberian river really better known in English under its Catalan name than under its Castilian one? (I doubt that Ebre is more frequent, but not being an English native speaker I do not dare to rename this page myself) Fransvannes 20:01, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)


 * No, it's always known as Ebro in English, as far as I know (I have never heard it called Ebre, personally). Adam Bishop 20:06, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

It makes no sense to me, so I've moved it. -- llywrch 23:23, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)


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Don't Move. —Wknight94 (talk) 20:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
it seems common practice in en.wiki to use names in more than one language when the river flows through bilingual regions, like Etsch-Adige, so I ask the Catalan name to be recognised in the title --Cruccone 23:57, 8 November 2005 (UTC)


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 * Oppose Neither Etsch nor Adige is an established English name (if either, Adige has a slightly better claim). Ebro, however, is the English name for the river. Septentrionalis 21:29, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Support -- &Eta; &Sigma;  L  &Iota;  &Phi;  S 8  9   &Mu; &alpha; &iota; L 21:36, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Strongly support--Kal-El ☺ post here! 21:57, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose The South Tyrolian rivers are the only ones I am aware of with double-named articles. When a river runs only runs through one country, I support having the article only be in the primary language of the country. So, I prefer Ebro, Adige, Isarco. It is when a river runs through multiple countries that I am undecided upon. Olessi 07:33, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Leave it at the common English name and be done with it. No Account 00:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Strongly oppose. I've never heard it called anything in English but the Ebro.  Additionally, I tend to side with Olessi's comments above (and below). &mdash;Ryan McDaniel 20:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose This is the only way literature ive seen shows the river. just use redirect if desired Anlace 21:15, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

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For the record, there are a number of rivers in the similar situation of having multiple names or running through multiple countries (while lacking a traditional English name)- Körös/Criş, Mureş/Maros, Someş River/Szamos, Barcău River (Criş)/Berettyó, Łyna/Lava, Uzh/Uh/Ung, Váh/Vag, Ipeľ/Ipoly, Hornád/Hernád, Sajó/Slaná, Šešupė/Szeszupa/Sheshupe, Daugava/Western Dvina. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers/Naming does not seem to cover these situations... Olessi 07:28, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. -- Stefán Ingi 13:54, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

It seems a sensible compromise to keep the title as "Ebro", but to put the Catalan name in bold in the opening sentence - so that's what I've done. I doesn't seem relevant to have the Greek and Latin names in the intro, so I've moved them to the name section. The Greek name, especially, is really only relevant in the context of a wider discussion of the etymology, but I've left it in for now. Blisco 10:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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Cistercian monastery?
The article cites one of the oldest Cistercian monasteries in Spain as lying on the banks of the Ebro in Aragon. It doesn't say which monastery is meant, however, and having lived in Zaragoza for several years, I'm curious as to which monastery this is. Anybody know? &mdash;Ryan McDaniel 20:29, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * i entered this information in several edits to Ebro within a few minutes time today regarding the monastery. it is known as Real Monasterio de Nuestra Senora de Rueda. i created the article Real Monasterio de Nuestra Senora de Rueda a few months ago and forgot to link it up to the Ebro River until today. regards Anlace 21:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Never mind, found it. It's the Real Monasterio de Nuestra Senora de Rueda.  Putting it into the article now.  &mdash;Ryan McDaniel 20:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Monasterio de Rueda is know in Aragón. Anselmocisneros 22:12, 18 January 2007 (UTC) '''Second longest? A Google search throws up this result; that Ebro is the longest river in Spain and this is what Quizaddicts-the Firefox extendion, also says. I think the information provided here wrt Ebro and its status is erroneous and misleading. This is the URL: http://www.microwiz.digitalbridgeway.com/crossword_links/world_rivers.htm Will the person who edited this please clarify?Sriram sh 10:33, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Basque name
The basque language is now, just like 2500 years ago? Them, Iber can to be a latin adapted word. Spanish river: Iber. Italian river: Tiber. Anselmocisneros 13:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The Greek name of the Ebro
I have checked Έβρος in the Greek WP, only to find that it corresponds to a river in the borderline of Greece and Turkey. On the other hand, under the voice Ισπανία (Spain), anybody can discover that the name of the Ebro in Greek is Έμπρο or Εύρος. I am prone to think that the Greek (ancient as well as current) have nothing to do with the word Ebro. I delete all this stuff accordingly.

Cheers,

Zack Holly Venturi 22:51, 9 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The name in ancient greek is Ίβηρ --80.58.205.56 (talk) 21:02, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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Old Eastern
Ebro is most likely a version of Latin Iberus or Hiberus, which are words related to Iberia, which refers to the ancient Hebrew. The origin of the name Iberia comes from Eber who is mentioned in Genesis 10, from which comes the origin of the Hebrew peoples. Ireland for example was once called Hibernia by the ancients. Thus there have been different versions of the word made separate only because of different language. Study of the migrations of the Hebrew peoples from the east in ancient times has been an unfruitful debate. Dxber (talk) 22:27, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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