Talk:Education in Texas

Before I forget
List of private schools in Texas Oldag07 (talk) 15:31, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Public education compared to other states?
I remember reading an article awhile back detailing issues with public school funding in Texas, as well as it grabbing the 36th ranking for it's quality of education compared to the other states. Should this be mentioned if I find the article? --MercZ (talk) 00:51, 23 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Probably. Don't quickly take comparisons, however. They are often promoted by people with an axe to grind. At least check where you can evaluate white children in Texas compared to white children in other states and minorities in Texas compared to minorities in other states. You might be surprised. Northern states do really well compared with southern states until this bias is removed. Then they don't always look so good. Having said that, Massachusetts looks good anyway. Mississippi looks bad anyway. So it's not 100% bias!  Student7 (talk) 01:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I suspect socioeconomic status also plays a role, e.g. poor insert race/color/national origin demographic here to the same in another state may hide money differences. If all the blue-skinned Texans are poor and all the blue-skinned people from New York are well-to-do, that will make it look like Texas treats its blue-skinned students poorly, and people may think Texas has something against blue-skinned people.  This assumes that household socioeconomic status really does matter - I think that's a safe assumption. davidwr/  (talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail)  01:51, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * In Florida the statistics were a pleasant surprise, catapulting the state from low to average or above average for both whites and blacks. Vermont was shocked when they went from the top of the heap to the middle!  :)   Student7 (talk) 21:18, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Digital Library
I think the stub Texas Digital Library can be merged with this article. -- N D Steve 10 ( talk ) 04:10, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

University of Houston
I don't know who added that but University of Houston is not a tier one university. It's tier two and it's rank is not published by USnews. The only two public tier one universities in TEXAS are university of Texas Austin and Texas A&M. Rice university is also a tier one private university. So overall Texas has 3 tier one universities. As for the 3 references that some one added to add University of Houston as top tier university, one of them is from university of Houston itself mentioning that they are taking steps towards becoming tier one. The other two references are Houston business journals who just wish that this is true!!! There are seven emerging universities in Texas and they are all at the same level. They are all taking steps towards becoming tier one like University of North Texas and University of Texas at Dallas. Here is some proof to my claim: http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-houston-3652 http://www.texastribune.org/texas-education/tier-one-universities/emerging-research-universities-tier-one-status/ http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/brittany-hoover/2012-01-12/texas-state-classified-emerging-research-university#.UBxiPU1mSZg http://www.webometrics.info/details.asp?univ=uh.edu&zoom_highlight=university+of+houston — Preceding unsigned comment added by CrasherZZZ (talk • contribs) 23:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Three of your sources do seem to support your claim, but the one that's specifically about US News rankings (the 1st one) doesn't mention "tier" at all, AFAICT. (I guess that's what you're saying in your first sentence?) That source does say UH is ranked 184 nationally ("2013 edition"), however, and according to Rankings of universities in the United States, "now all the schools ranked in the top three quartiles (ranked 1 to 194) are 'First Tier' Universities, and the bottom quartile—the schools in the bottom 25%—are now labeled 'Second Tier'." (Although this statement in the article is not cited.) So maybe the other sources are using the old, pre-2011 definition of "Tier One" and not the new one... - dcljr (talk) 00:53, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Carnegie Foundation's Research Classification
The Carnegie Foundation classifies the University of Houston as a Tier One research university. This is the highest classficiation of research universities. The designation makes UH one of only three Tier One state research universities in Texas. The Carnegie Foundation's Tier One research classification is not the same thing as the "Tier 1" National University Rankings in U.S. News & World Report.

The text in the Education in Texas article asserts that Texas has three Tier One state research universities: The University of Texas at Austin, Texas A&M University, and the University of Houston. This statement is correct as the Carnegie Foundation classifies these three institutions in its highest category of research universities.

–RJN (talk) 20:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

U.S. News & World Report Ranking
No where in the text—at the time of the talk page posting—does the Education in Texas article asserts that the University of Houston is Tier 1 in the National University Rankings of U.S. News & World Report; howevever, it is now. The Carnegie Foundation's "Tier One" research classification is not the same thing as the "Tier 1" National University Rankings in U.S. News & World Report.

The U.S. News & World Report ranks the university No. 184 (Tier 1) in its National University Rankings, and is No. 103 among top public universities. It was ranked Tier 2 in previous years, but is now Tier 1 in the latest rankings!

–RJN (talk) 20:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Conclusion
The University of Houston is a Carnegie-designated Tier One research university, and is now Tier 1 in the National University Rankings of U.S. News & World Report.

–RJN (talk) 20:04, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Number of students in the Divide Independent School District
According to the article of the Divide Independent School District, there are 26 students in the district while this article states half that number. Please address this problem using reliable sources. Thank you. The Average Wikipedian (talk) 10:27, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions
I believe that there is an imbalance of information for primary and secondary education in comparison to Universities. More general information could be added about the number of students, demographics of students and current achievement levels. There is only a brief segment about Hispanics and non-Hispanics and needs more context about demographics at large. I also believe that more citing is necessary with the claims about the universities and Robin Hood Plan. Also, not all universities are listed and some are mislabeled. For example, Rice and Trinity are a private institutions, not public. Reillybrooks (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

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