Talk:Edward C. Lawson

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Should this article be renamed since it is more about the law case Lawson was involved in and not Lawson himself?

The end of “stop-and-identify” laws[edit]

The statement “it represented the end of ‘stop and ID laws’ for the entire United States” is seriously in error. The U.S. Supreme Court voided California Penal Code §647(e) for vagueness, relying on a construction given that law by a California appellate court in People v. Solomon (1973), 33 Cal.App.3d 429. Consequently, it did not necessarily invalidate nominally identical laws in other states. And the Court did not rule on Fourth Amendment or Fifth Amendment considerations, setting the stage for Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial District Court of Nevada in 2004, which essentially upheld the validity of “stop-and-identify” laws. JeffConrad (talk) 05:19, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The section Subsequent jurisprudence may be overkill for an article about Lawson rather than the case. But the statements about the end of “stop-and-identify” laws should be clarified before that section is removed. I'm trying to think of an approach that doesn't mislead but that also doesn't minimize the significance of Lawson's achievement. It's not that simple, even in California; although the consensus seems to be that the obligation to identify oneself to a peace officer ended with Kolender, there are some who think that failure to present identification is an offense similar to the violation of Nevada law of which Hiibel was convicted, and there are others who think a suspect may be searched for identification if he refuses to provide it. JeffConrad (talk) 21:50, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Very little biographical information, at present (2021)[edit]

The article currently tells us nothing about his life… and nothing about his death.

Remarkable for a biographical entry in an encyclopedia.

I presume there's been at least one book published with at least one chapter containing information of this kind? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:BDB3:8D00:C1F5:5A4:DD8C:C641 (talk) 05:46, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don’t know Wikipedia rules so I am writing this in the TALK section and someone else can edit the article. There is Bio information on Mr Lawson here https://alchetron.com/Edward-C-Lawson

It includes a date of death, May 12, 2011 and cause of death pancreatic cancer.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.184.68.90 (talk • contribs)

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"Plaintiff" versus "respondent" versus "defendant"[edit]

In the opening paragraph, I changed "plaintiff" to "respondent," because that was Lawson's role in Kolender v. Lawson.

In a civil case or an appellate case, the party before "v." is always the plaintiff, and the party after "v." is always the respondent.

In a criminal case, there is some disagreement whether the party before "v." is the plaintiff versus the prosecution, but that is moot because Lawson was the defendant in the original criminal case and did not appeal that case.

The last paragraph in topic Civil rights case refers to Lawson as "defendant," without any citation. Site [1]Alchetron has this identical paragraph, also without any citation. I Googled that topic and found no original sources. DavidForthoffer (talk) 10:29, 8 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]