Talk:Egyptian medical papyri

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Minor papyri
There's a few other minor papyri that could be added here, it would probably be good to add them here if anyone can find sources for them.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  18:23, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I added a papyrus, but I'll look for some references... *Cremepuff  222*  21:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I've never added a ref before, so could someone check this? *Cremepuff  222*  22:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ref looks fine to me, thanks for adding the papyrus :-)  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  22:33, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Erm, the external link doesn't show up in the last reference. Is that how it's supposed to be? *Cremepuff  222*  01:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You need to add the URL seperately, I've don't it now so it's fixed.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  01:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'll keep that in mind. *Cremepuff  222*  01:42, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Pagemoves suggestion
The convention for most articles seems to use a cap on "Papyrus" or "Papyri" for the names, such as on the famous Rhind Mathematical Papyrus, etc. I think this article should be moved to Medical Papyri, as well as moving-over-redirect the first two others to Edwin Smith Papyrus and Ebers Papyrus (the third one is curiously already capped). &mdash; Komusou talk @ 19:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If you do a quick g search, you see that the "p" isn't gnerally capitalised when in the main body of text so I'm not sure about the move. I certainly agree it may be a good idea to move Ebers papyrus and the Edwin Smith papyrus, as papyrus in that context is part of the name.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  19:52, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Appears you're right – I thought the set had become capitalized because the article's author had capitalized "The Medical Papyri are ..." in the lead (wink, wink ;-). Which means it just should be decapitalized entirely in the lead (as well as in the DYK hooks, now I think of it), plus namecheck lesser-used "medical papyruses" for the record. And I'm going to pagemove the two other articles. &mdash; Komusou talk @ 13:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * All done. I've also added the Lowercase to align lead and headword. &mdash; Komusou talk @ 18:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Images?
This article is great at the moment, but what would really make it better would be a few pictures. There are a few here, but if anyone has a picture that could be used, that would be awesome. *Cremepuff 222*  02:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Commons:Image:Papyrus Ebers.png looks good to me, any chance you could add it in? It would probably be good to get images to illustrate all the main papyri.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  02:21, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. I also e-mailed a guy for the use of an image on his website. I'll let you know when he replies. *Cremepuff  222*  02:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the image on the introduction. Do you think it would be better to be placed in the respective section? *Cremepuff  222*  02:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sheesh, I'm obsessed with this... this site has some really good content. I would add something, but I'm a bit busy right now. Good luck. *Cremepuff  222*  02:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Why lowercase?
Makes no sense to me. Anyone explain? 82.71.48.158 23:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It's because the medical papyri is just a collective name for all the medical papyri found. The individual are captialised, but this is just a group.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  23:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No reason to lowercase it, though. Lowercase is just for words which are *never* uppercased, not even when beginning a sentence (like eBay or iPod). — Nightstallion 23:26, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In the English language, upper case is for "proper names" and titles or at the beginning of a sentence. Lower case is for all other "common" nouns unless it's a brand name of some kind or a stylistic trick such as the writer "e.e. cummings". Take a look at at the wiki's Manual of style and enjoy polishing your editing. Julia Rossi 00:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not disputing the lowercase or anything, but why are articles like "Tree" capitalized even though they are common nouns as well? *Cremepuff  222*  22:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You most certainly don't need to correct me, Julia; I'm well aware of how we should use lowercase and uppercase. — Nightstallion 00:20, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

The Michigan Medical Codex L C Youtie (1986)
Editor is requested to please include the work of Prof Emeritus L C Youtie, in the Medical Papyri she studied. An important recipe "the 12 Ingredients" found in the 4th Century Papyri has been located and discussed with regard to Claudius Galen. The Michigan Medical Codex on papyrus (fourth century A.D.) is almost entirely composed of medical recipes for plasters or poultices. It mentions Emplastrum Isis] Source: Zeitschrift für Papyrologie und Epigraphik, Bd. 70 (1987), pp. 73-103 Published by: Dr. Rudolf Habelt GmbH, Bonn (Germany) Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20186694. http://www.papirologia.unipr.it/studentiLM/Youtie5.ZPE70.pdf

In the form of a table on page 153,[Youtie5.ZPE70.pdf] Prof Youtie compares the Galen recipes with the one found in the Papyrus. Sigmund9 (talk) 16:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Louise Canberg Youtie (1909 – 18 February 2004. She writes : ‘…The ingredients of this recipe are found, with slight variations and additions, among Galen’s […..], “yellow-green plasters for lichen-like skin eruptions….referred to as Gal. (1) and Gal. (2) [in the Table]…..Gal (3) and …. Gal. (4); and from the works of Heras, XIII 775,6, that of Epigones, sometimes called “the Isis” = Gal. (5). Cf. the Table of Ingredients and Amounts at the end of the commentary (see footnote 87) (footnote 87) on page 151 of the same reference. Prof. L. C. Youtie writes: “ (87) Omitted from the Table are Gal. XIII 492,7 and Paul. VII 17.339, both duplicates of the Isis recipe of Epigones. They differ from Gal (5) only in the amount of the resin…..In Gal. XIII 494 the Athena recipe calls for 250 dr. of wax and 300 dr. of resin, plus the ingredients of our text and several more in addition.’ Sigmund9 (talk) 16:36, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Carlsberg Paryrus
The Carlsberg section is significantly lacking compared to other sections and I found some information and decided to add about determining when a pregnant woman will give birth, will cite the source as well. Sjhxbn (talk) 17:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Ramesseum Papyri
I have found that this section needs more detailed information to provide insight, therefore I plan to add some information on how we the Ramesseum Papryi came to be. Ashtonnd33 (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Papyri History Section
I am going to be moving a section about the brief history of papyri and how and when they were discovered into the article from my sandbox. Sjhxbn (talk) 15:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC) I am adding more to this, mainly about some later studies that validate knowledge. Sjhxbn (talk) 19:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC) I am adding some more sources that cross reference others, and a physical book I obtained from the library. Sjhxbn (talk) 22:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC) Once again, I am adding some more information and some new sources for the history section. Sjhxbn (talk) 19:40, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Additions
I will be making a couple detailed additions to some of the papyri sections that are currently listed in the articleAshtonnd33 (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2021 (UTC)