Talk:Either/Or

"The size of the spheres is for illustrative purposes only"
that's very silly and should be removed. quantitative measurements have so little to do with anything in these regards that their very denial oversuggests them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.71.70 (talk) 03:42, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Style
This looks odd, unwieldy, and unencyclopedic, but can someone who has read Kierkegaard take a look?Vicki Rosenzweig 18:27 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Frogus - Indeed unwieldy style, but the content is sound. There is always a good reason why Kierkegaard's books are the lengths they are, and they are very difficult to summarise without using terms that are incomprehensible to a lay reader. Anyway I'll try to re-order it.

Diapsalmata
If my memory serves, 'diapsalmata' is not the whole of the 'Either', yet ambiguous phrasing in this article makes it seem like it is. If someone could verify that my memory is right, then this should be changed. Prometheus912 07:50, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

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Good Article Nomination

 * Revised, Monday July 29 2024 (UTC);the original review has been commented out like  so, but can be viewed by editing this page .

The author has dealt with the recommendations in an appropiate manner, and the article is looking great. References where available have been added, as per recommendations, and the images have been tidied up. My one piece of advice is to align the image at Either/Or to the right - all the others are at the right hand side, and it simply looks out of place to the left.

Well Done! anthony cfc [ talk] 20:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


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Opera by Goethe?!?
"During Kierkegaard's stay, as well as working on the manuscript for Either/Or, he took daily lessons to perfect his German and attended operas, particularly by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart and Johann Wolfgang Goethe." Goethe wrote opera?!? -- Alcmaeonid (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)


 * That probably should read "attended operas and plays"; Mozart for the former and Goethe for the latter. Poor Yorick (talk) 04:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

General copyedit
I am proceeding with a general copyedit of the article which I believe is sorely needed. This consists of grammatical structure edits and reformatting for readability. Any assistance would be welcome. I am also open to critique which could be offered here. -- Alcmaeonid (talk) 16:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

"upbuilding"
In the Or section (and following) there is a peculiar use of the word "upbuilding." As in: "Ultimatium: The volume ends in a discourse on the Upbuilding in the Thought that: against God we are always in the wrong." Is this a translation oddity? Or is it a special-use term? I'd like to replace it but want to make sure I'm not missing something. -- Alcmaeonid (talk) 17:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)-

I doubt that such a clearcut thought requires any upbuilding. 86.41.86.175 (talk) 16:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

lead-in?
hey all, shouldn't there be a lead in/introduction before the table of contents on this page? LazyMapleSunday (talk) 17:50, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, now there's a lead-in, but it says that the book "outlines a theory of human development in which consciousness progresses." This is only one possible way of reading of the text, and in my view it's a bad one. It's also in direct conflict with the "existential" interpretation later on in the article. I think the introduction needs to be fixed, to remove this line, so it doesn't take sides between the differing interpretations.- Ian

Quotes and copyright
This article contains some lengthy quotes, well beyond the length required for copyright protection, and there doesn't appear to be any sort of claim that the translations are old enough to be in the public domain. How is this not a blatant violation of copyright? 188.178.233.110 (talk) 12:44, 2 June 2011 (UTC)


 * This IP contributor asks a good question. Extensive quotations are forbidden by policy. These quotes should be truncated unless the copyright status can be clarified. I've extended the IP's listing at Copyright problems/2011 June 25 to permit interested contributors an opportunity to address this before somebody on copyright cleanup takes a stab at it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:45, 3 July 2011 (UTC)


 * No one has addressed the IP's question, which is quite a good one, as the oldest translation listed is from the late 1980s. I have accordingly blanked the article, as it far surpasses the brief quotations permitted on Wikipedia. If a usable rewrite is not proposed, I believe it may be necessary to restore the article to the state it was in prior to the beginning of the introduction of these lengthy quotations. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't have permission from Princeton University Press to use the long quotes in Either/Or. I put all the quotes in there so I'll try to rewrite it in an acceptable manner. It may take awhile. I tried to set up a page where you directed me and messed it up so I will use one of my old user pages for Either/Or--11614soup(talk) 11614soup 00:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Since it has been blanked for a while now, an earlier version of the article has been restored from which you might build. Please be careful with the length of quotations. Unfortunately, we are not permitted to use extensive quotations of non-free content on Wikipedia. (See Copy-paste.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:07, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

I have removed one quote that was recently put back into the article as it was over 400 words and did not indicate the date of publication. Unless Kierkegaard wrote in English, he was not the proximate author of that content. We need the edition and the translator to assess copyright status. Quotes in the Reception section are lengthy and need to be truncated, using a combination of rewording and briefer quotation to get the main points across. I've tagged them in the hopes that interested contributors will consider how best to minimize the non-free content. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Other Kierkegaard-related articles seem to be in the same situation, such as Philosophical Fragments and Fear and Trembling. Can I suggest considering user-contributed translations? They would need to be done carefully, but it would solve any copyright problem completely. 95.166.78.149 (talk) 09:06, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

I find it unusually quote-heavy and it's tedious to read... Am I alone in this? 86.166.167.144 (talk) 22:20, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

Cover
The image seems like a stock image of Google Books, not an actual cover of a 19th century edition, in contrast to what is stated in the entry on Either/Or. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.47.233.109 (talk) 23:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

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Title of Either/Or
The title paragraph is a bit unclear and marked as needing a citation. In searching for that, I have found a different description of the meaning of the title, specifically that it is a response to Hegel... HarryDaley (talk) 17:49, 11 August 2023 (UTC)