Talk:Elaphe

Merge with Rat snake?
Should this be merged with Rat snake ? --Kummi (talk) 21:13, 8 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Not if you ask me. Besides Elaphe, there are at least two other genera that are also referred to as rat snakes -- Bogertophis (desert rat snakes) and Senticolis (mountain rat snakes). That's according to this ITIS page. In addition, I expect Elaphe to be split up in the not too distant future. For these reasons, I do not believe that it would be helpful to dump all our information on "rat snakes" into one big article. A better solution would be to make the rat snake article into a disambiguation page. --Jwinius (talk) 02:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Old World species
What about old-world species? i. e., Elaphe scalaris, E. longissima... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.127.98.147 (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Good point. Right now the species table follows ITIS, but this source is obviously not yet complete. Perhaps the Elaphe species from TIGR should be added to this table for the time being, but this database is unavailable at the moment. --Jwinius (talk) 22:31, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Added Eastern Ratsnake (Pantherophis alleghaniensis) to species moved from Elaphe
Wasn't included in list. Okay? Previously, Eastern ratsnake was complex of E. obsoleta ssp, ME to FL Keys: E.o. obsoleta, quadreivittata, rossaleni, dekerti, (& williamsi, which seems to have been an intergrade between E. o. quadreivtittata & E. o. spilodes, now P. spiloides). Catrachos (talk) 17:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Elaphe obsoleta
Elaphe obsoleta now redirects to Pantherophis obsoletus, yet it is being used a lot in the article. If Pantherophis obsoletus is no longer Elaphe, maybe we should remove it from the article. --Jarekt (talk) 14:37, 19 December 2016 (UTC)