Talk:Elohist

Benjamin
E is theorized to have been composed by collecting together the various stories and traditions concerning biblical Israel and its associated tribes (Dan, Napthali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulon, Ephraim, Manesseh, Benjamin),

Wasn't Benjamin (by happenstance, admittedly) a tribe of Judah? john k 23:11, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

The territory of Benjamin was divided between both kingdoms. Culturally, however, Benjamin seems to have been more akin to the north, as Saul and his son Ishbaal, although from the tribe of Benjamin, are seen as "northern" monarchs.--Rob117 01:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Elohim
Glad to see that you don't reference the "Elohim" article, which does not reference any historical or cultural traditions outside of the OT. -- LKS 5/29/06

Aren't Aaronite priests and Levitical priests the same thing? You say that E treats God as a human like figure, but doesnt E treat god more as a transcendental figure?


 * There were two semi-rival groups of Levitical priesthood, the "Mushite" presthood from Shiloh and Tel Dan, and the "Aaronite" presthood from Jerusalem. John D. Croft (talk) 08:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

documentary hypothesis
"This article describes the opinion of the documentary hypothesis without taking into account alternative opinions; see the documentary hypothesis article for details on disputes over this theory." Someone recently added an alternative opinion, so now the article contradicts itself. Leadwind 23:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Furthermore, there is no analogous statement at the Jahwist page. Delmlsfan 15:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Sacrifice of Isaac
The article currently claims
 * In the Elohist work, Isaac does not ever appear again after this story, and the story appears to imply that Isaac was sacrificed.

but provides no citation for this claim.

I have been unable to find a translation of the relevant text, but I have found two scholarly sources that seem to indicate the above claim is incorrect.

Source 1:
 * but the Elohist spoils his pathetic narrative by a close which, for modern taste, could hardly be more prosaic. 'And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold, a ram caught in the thicket by his horns, and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt-offering instead of his son' (p2178)

Source 2:
 * [Under the Elohist heading]
 * Abraham obeys until the very last moment when he is instructed by an angel to substitute a ram for Isaac. (p851) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Topherwhelan (talk • contribs) 06:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

DJP Sequence
The lead mentions a "DJP Sequence" without explaning what it is. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 18:38, 20 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I have expanded "DJP sequence" to read "Deuteronomist-Jahwist-Priestly source sequence" with wikilinks for each which should make it a little clearer what is meant, and if not, it should make it easier for them to figure it out. However, I used hyphens here, and I'm not certain if WP:MOS prefers n-dashes or other for this type of usage, so that might need updating. I also wikilinked Horeb to Mount Horeb considering that many people make a clear distinction between the two mounts even though many others consider the two mounts to be the same. The Horeb article is a decent length, although it may still need a bit of expansion (the extra length of the Biblical Mount Sinai article, in comparison to Horeb, is mostly due to a long section speculating on its possible location). — al-Shimoni  (talk) 04:56, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Elohist-Jahwist differences
I'm moving the below text out of the article, as it's been unsourced since it was added in 2005, and parts of it are dubious (see the point raised earlier on this talk page about the sacrifice of Isaac, for example). I'll leave it here in case anyone wants to find sources for it. DanFromAnotherPlace (talk) 13:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)