Talk:Elton John/Archive 4

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Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2020

In the Honors and Awards section, forth sentence reads: "For his charitable, work he was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II on 24 February 1998." The comma is on the wrong place, and maybe call out Elton's name. Perhaps: "For his charitable work, John was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II on 24 February 1998." Poberpotomus (talk) 02:53, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

•  Done: The comma was in the wrong place. It isn't really necessary to say "John was knighted" as the section header and previous sentence make it obvious that it was him.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:17, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

New infobox image

Re this edit: it is more up to date and is a good photo, but I am worried that the huge blue spectacles are obscuring the view of his face. The previous image is from 2011, but does give a better view of his face. I am tempted to revert the new photo.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Re this edit: saying "The 2019 photo is newer" is not a trump card. It is a common argument on Wikpedia that the infobox image should be the newest one available, but there are other factors involved. The main purpose of an infobox image in a biographical article is to show the person's face clearly, which the 2019 photograph does not, as Elton John's face is obscured by the large blue glasses. I'm aware that the 2011 image is getting a bit old now, but the fact that the 2019 photo is newer does not automatically make it better. There needs to be a WP:CONSENSUS before changing the infobox image.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:57, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I'd go with the newer one. Yes, he's wearing ridiculous glasses, but that's a big part of his image. So it does look like him. And the older one also has glasses, so it's not significantly better. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:47, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

The 2019 photo seems to be mostly about his wig and glasses rather than his face. I can't really recommend this image because the 2011 image, while older, is a good deal better at showing his face.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 13:34, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

The wig and glasses is Elton John, or at least his public persona. The image's job is to best present the subject as they are most commonly seen/recognised in public. I'm not too fussed, but I would have no issue recognising him from the 2019 photo, and it does reflect who he is. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 15:22, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Marriage date

The year of marriage to David Furnish is listed as 2014, but when a civil partnership is converted to a marriage, the date of the original civil partnership appears on the marriage certificate, so their marriage date would be 2005, the date of the original civil partnership. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon81uk (talk • contribs) 10:52, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Had a look at the wording, and the text in the article makes clear that the civil partnership began in 2005, and the marriage ceremony was in 2014. What happened was that John and Furnish were able to convert a same sex civil partnership into a marriage. I'm not sure how this appears on the marriage certificate, but the article text is clear that this was a civil partnership from 2005 converted into a marriage in 2014.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:09, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Update the picture?

I was thinking maybe it's time the photo of him (2011) should be updated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.99.237.167 (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

See the thread Talk:Elton_John#New_infobox_image above. We are limited for choice by what is on Commons. Personally I'm not a fan of the 2019 image because it gives a good look at his wig and glasses rather than his face. The 2011 image, although older, gives a better look at his face.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:39, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect statement

This article incorrectly states, " In May 1949, John became the first Western rock act to play behind the Iron Curtain, playing eight concerts in the Soviet Union; four dates in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) and four in Moscow.[73]

Cliff Richard was the first Western rock act to play in the USSR in 1976. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22keato (talk • contribs) 03:03, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Rock music and the fall of communism has this cite which says "Cliff toured the U.S.S.R. (aka the Soviet Union) in August 1976, playing 12 shows in Leningrad, followed by 8 shows in Moscow. A show in Leningrad was filmed and used as part of the Gastroli Cliffa Richarda v Leningrade TV broadcast. As far as is known, Cliff was (probably) the first Western rock 'n' roll artist officially invited to play in the Soviet Union, pre-dating Elton John who toured in 1979 who is often incorrectly cited as the first." There are various other cites and some YouTube videos in black and white of Cliff Richard's performances which say this but they are not blue chip sources. However, it is probably wrong to say that Elton John was the first well known pop star to perform in the Soviet Union.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:15, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Touring the Soviet Union at the age of two would have been quite a notable achievement? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

collaboration with Steven Wilson

The collaboration between him and the Steven Wilson on the new album Future bites is not mentioned in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:6D40:2AE0:10FC:F06E:FAF8:C2F3:9A5 (talk) 09:30, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Lawsuits and Allegations of Abuse

In 2016, Jeffrey Wenninger, one of Elton John’s personal security guards from 2002 through 2014, filed a lawsuit against John, alleging battery, sexual battery and sexual harassment. According to the lawsuit filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, Wenninger said that "John touched him in an “unwelcome” manner over the course of several years after he started working for the singer in 2002 as an off-duty security guard." The incidents increased in “frequency and intensity after 2010.” Wenninger both verbally and physically resisted John's unwelcome sexual advances, but his actions “had no permanent effect” on John’s behavior. Wenninger dropped the suit later that same year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:18E8:2:1083:F000:0:0:6BD (talk) 15:17, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

References

This is true, but the problem is that nothing ever came of it, as the cites show. Jeffrey Wenninger withdrew the lawsuit in November 2016.[1] In this form it isn't notable enough for the article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

@Ian, you could say that "nothing ever came of it" for most celebrity scandals that were resolved out of court or were dropped for unknown reasons. In a sense, nothing came out of the accusations against Michael Jackson since he was not convicted of anything, but the charges against him are still note worthy. Liberace never publicly said that he was gay, but there is a section devoted to discussing the possibility and his ex-employees claims. Why exactly are claims against Elton John unworthy of inclusion, but Wikipedia seems to contain allegation made about nearly everyone else? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:18E8:2:1083:F000:0:0:6BD (talk) 19:52, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Personally, I don't think that it's worth saying that Wenninger made these allegations and then dropped them. It doesn't add anything of great value to the article.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 22:58, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Hmmm. Nothing came of all the gossip about that lovable fundraising DJ from Leeds, did it? Martinevans123 (talk) 23:04, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

There are various things that are not in the article, such as the libel case with the dog in 2018.[2] The issue here is lasting notability per WP:10YT. I don't think that Wenninger's allegations are worth mentioning since he withdrew them.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:42, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

What about in the context of his being caught with Pedophilic photographs, which he admitted was his? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-483748/Elton-John-defends-photograph-seized-child-porn-art-raid.html This is even briefly hinted at in reference 221 as it links to an article called "Art or Porn?" Strange this is not considered noteworthy. This alone would be enough to "cancel" many celebrities, let alone with personal allegations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beyondwithinitself (talk • contribs) 01:43, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

This also came to nothing, as the Crown Prosecution Service decided that the image was not indecent, following a similar decision in 2001 when it was exhibited at the Saatchi Gallery.[3] Again the issue here is long term notability, and the article should not make incidents appear larger and more controversial than they actually were. By the way, it would not be a good idea to say he was "caught with Pedophilic photographs" within earshot of John's lawyers, as this isn't an accurate summary of the news coverage.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:11, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Ah yes, the good old Daily Mail. Nan Goldin a pornographer? Sounds like it was just two tiny dancers. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:07, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

despite having lost contact with her 50 years ago

More than a few parts of this article are written poorly, in that they read like a newspaper or magazine article. Each of those two types of publishing have specific dates on which they were written-published. The date of the information is printed in either the by-line of the article, or on the outside cover. In both of those media, you can write phrases like, ". . .despite having lost contact with her 50(sic) years ago." The "50 years ago" would be from the publication date of the newspaper or magazine issue. But in Wikipedia, what does, ". . .despite having lost contact with her 50 years ago" mean? Fifty years ago -- from when? (It should be written "fifty years earlier"). That is "fifty", not "50", and "earlier", not "ago". There are other sentences in this article that also could make use of an English-speaking editor.

If you're an English-speaking editor, I'd suggest you make all the corrections you can. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:58, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Not likely. I'll leave that to the page owners. Too many re-writes needed, and if no one else sees it, I guess that's where it will stand. Thanks for the offer, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.32.66.158 (talk) 20:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia has no "page owners". You are free to suggest improvements or to make them yourself. Otherwise, it's possible you may be branded as a "Moaning Minnie", and just be ignored. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:57, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2021

In 1990, John achieved his first solo UK number one hit single, with "Sacrifice" (coupled with "Healing Hands") from the previous year's album Sleeping with the Past; it stayed at the top spot for five (not six) weeks 176.251.209.133 (talk) 22:30, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Morneo06 (talk) 22:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

The UK Chart archive says five weeks [4] and Sacrifice (Elton John song) says this as well, so it may need changing.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:55, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

The sourcing says that "Sacrifice/Healing Hands" was the UK number one from 17 June to 15 July 1990, which is five weeks, so the article has been updated.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 10:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Hair loss

No mention whatever of his hair loss? There's quite a lot of tabloid coverage, of course. Here's a possibly better source from 2019. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

No such thing as privacy any more - FlightTime (open channel) 22:51, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Tricky when you're pop star worth about $500 million. Quite the shrinking violet, isn't he, poor thing. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:03, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Elton John discusses this in his autobiography Me and there is an extract from it here. I don't suppose that many people are going to faint with shock on learning that he wears a wig nowadays, but it is interesting that he had a hair transplant in the 1970s. Overall though, there isn't much RS discussing this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:03, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that. Shame it's the Daily Mirror. The book is partly available online here. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Here's some more pink wig goss. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:32, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

Discussion

Make a link to his ex wife. 2A02:C7E:2CB8:A00:E12E:B921:14CA:2DEA (talk) 07:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Renate Blauel doesn't have an article and the link redirects here. She would probably not meet WP:GNG as she is best known for being married to Elton John between 1984 and 1988.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

Songwriter

The odyssey continues.

In 2016, I summarized (in Talk page section Occupation) the many edits over the years to Elton's occupations as listed in the first sentence of the lede. Since then, it's been somewhat more stable, still with occasional edits, including recently. It appears that there's a persistent issue about whether he's a "songwriter" or not. Other issues include whether he's a "pianist" or "musician".

In the prior Talk section, I advocated deferring to what reliable sources have to say, as per WP:V (isn't that what we're supposed to do?). I also listed various sources and how they weigh in on the matter, including the Songwriters Hall of Fame, who inducted him. For more information, please refer to the discussion in that previous Talk section.

For now, I continue here my summary of edits to the material in question:

• As of 20:31, 6 April 2016 (HLachman (me), see above-mentioned Talk section):
  • an English pianist, singer-songwriter and composer.

(5 months)

• As of 15:38, 20 September 2016 (Ajax1995, see above-mentioned Talk section):
  • an English singer-songwriter, musician and composer.

(3 months)

• As of 10:15, 26 December 2016 (Dan100):
  • an English singer, pianist, and composer.

(27 months)

• As of 00:40, 14 March 2019 (Almostangelic123):
  • an English singer, songwriter, pianist, and composer.

(32 months)

• As of 12:38, 22 November 2021 (FMSky):
  • an English singer, pianist and composer.

Interestingly, the infobox has been a bit more stable, with "Musician • singer-songwriter • composer" (6 April 2016, by HLachman (me), 35 months), then "Singer • songwriter • pianist • composer" (14 March 2019, by Almostangelic123, 32 months), then "Singer • pianist • composer" (22 November 2021, by FMSky).

I don't have a specific proposal at present, just think it would be a good idea for interested editors to discuss the matter. -- HLachman (talk) 13:20, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

The section Musicianship says: "Their method involves Taupin writing the lyrics on his own and sending them to John, who then writes music for them before recording the songs".... so he's not a songwriter. Pretty simple --FMSky (talk) 20:36, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

@FMSky: If I understand your reasoning, "songwriter" commonly refers to people who write both lyrics and music. While that certainly isn't wrong, applying the term more broadly (e.g., to include those who write only the music, or only the lyrics) isn't wrong either, according to various sources (and, in fact, in your own wording, you said "writes music"). I'm seeing a definition of "songwriter" on Google, which cites Oxford Languages: "a person who writes popular songs or the music for them." Also, the definition from Merriam-Webster says: "a person who composes words or music or both especially for popular songs." As for the case of Elton in particular, please also refer to the "Occupation" Talk section, as I referenced above, for examples of various sources that explicitly refer to him as a songwriter (including both news sources and music industry sources, and also having been inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame). Aside from all of that, the legal meaning seems to be that those who write only music (or only words) are included among those entitled to be paid songwriter royalties. In short, based on the available sources, and what appears to be common usage across domains, it appears that applying the term "songwriter" isn't wrong in this case. -- HLachman (talk) 06:59, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Bump. I'm interested to know if any other editors have an opinion on the above. -- HLachman (talk) 18:44, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

I can't see any problem here. Songs have lyrics and music, Elton John writes the music and Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics (mostly). See Merriam-Webster and others.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:29, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

@Ianmacm: Does "can't see any problem here" mean (a) you prefer leaving the article as-is (to exclude the word "songwriter"), or (b) to include the word "songwriter", or (c) either way is fine? -- HLachman (talk) 05:44, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

The lead currently says that he is an "English singer, pianist and composer". If anything, songwriter is more accurate because it is closer to the definition given by Merriam-Webster and others. He is a composer, but he isn't a classical composer.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:01, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Blur in the infobox image

Has anyone noticed there is a blurred section in the infobox? (on Elton's left ear). Can this be fixed somehow as it looks a bit distracting. --TribeHasSpoken (talk) 20:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes it is a bit odd, and it's unclear why this has happened. I had a look at various other versions of the image on TinEye and they all have the same effect. So it is difficult to fix this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:56, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I think a different picture should be used. Anything is better than the current one with the strange effect. --TribeHasSpoken (talk) 16:05, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

It was previously this but some people wanted a newer image because they thought that going back to 2011 was too long ago. Personally I would prefer this image in the infobox and would appreciate input from other editors.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:35, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Longtime fan of his music so I remember when this article had that image for the infobox. I think the 2011 image is fine. Elton's appearance hasn't changed that much since then, and while the 2019 image is more recent, that blur effect just ruins it. Out of the images of Elton we have, I think the 2011 image is the best one to use for an infobox. Other editors should voice their opinions on this here too. --TribeHasSpoken (talk) 17:07, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Separate page for his concert tours?

Hey fellow editors! A while ago I added all of Elton John's concert tours to the article, but they were removed in a later edit due to them taking up a lot of space. I agree with this, so would like to propose an article featuring all of John's tours (ala List of concert tours by Michael Jackson and the Jackson 5). John has been touring since he began his music career, his tours are notable and should be listed somewhere other than a template. I would like to know what other editors think about this. --TribeHasSpoken (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

A simple "list of" article might not be ideal as it would simply repeat what is in the template. A spinoff article should aim to give a summary of each of the tours.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 20:19, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

"This article has been viewed enough times in a single year to make it into the Top 50 Report annual list. This happened in 2019, when it received 10,533,279 views."

If this is true, why is this page not listed as being in the Top 25 report? Surely for this article to have received over 10 million views, it must have made several of the 2019 Top 25 Reports. So why is Elton's page not currently in any of them? --92.22.212.168 (talk) 21:57, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

According to Wikipedia:2019 Top 50 Report, Elton John's article was #36 with 10,533,279 page views. It doesn't necessarily follow that this would lead to the article appearing on the top 25 list as well.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:05, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

‎Rocket Hour Apple Music podcast

Is this worth a mention in the article? A radio show on Apple Music that Elton has presented over 300 episodes of, mainly featuring music from young artists. --92.22.212.168 (talk) 16:03, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

The benchmark for this is WP:DUE, or in plain language the amount of coverage it has received in reliable secondary sources. I did a web search for this and could not find much, so it probably isn't worth a mention.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 16:19, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Platinum Party at the Palace

Elton's role in this (performing "Your Song") is worth a mention in the article. --89.243.125.209 (talk) 11:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Strictly speaking, this was a pre-recorded performance and it was projected on to the front wall of Buckingham Palace. This was due to Elton's Farewell Yellow Brick Road tour commitments; he was performing in Milan in Italy on 4 June 2022, the day of the Jubilee party.[5][6] I'm 50-50 on whether this should be in the article, although it is mentioned at Platinum Party at the Palace.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:17, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

I agree with these points! But while it might have been a pre-recorded performance, it is still nevertheless another royal event Elton was involved in. So I don't see the harm in it being mentioned in this article briefly, if there is also a mention of the performance being pre-recorded. --89.243.125.209 (talk) 19:40, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Double link in Shane Warne mention

"Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me" is already linked earlier in the article, it doesn't need to be linked again for the section mentioning Elton's performance at Shane Warne's funeral. --89.243.125.209 (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

MOS:REPEATLINK says "Generally, a link should appear only once in an article, but it may be repeated if helpful for readers", so I've removed this.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 22:09, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

Mention of Elton John's National Humanities Medal in the lead?

I think this is notable enough for lead inclusion. 79.66.82.129 (talk) 17:36, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 November 2022

Marc Bolan and T Rex should also be noted as an influence

https://www.music-news.com/news/UK/134224/Sir-Elton-John-says-Marc-Bolan-was-a-great-role-model-as-he-was-developing-his-stage-persona Danielsiwek (talk) 11:13, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

•  Not done It already states "John, who had adopted a glam aesthetic on stage, would later state glam rock icon Marc Bolan "had a great effect on me."[76]" in the section titled 1974–1980: The Rocket Record Company to 21 at 33. --Jayron32 13:24, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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"Rocket Man"??

The second sentence of the lead section says: "Commonly nicknamed the "Rocket Man" after his 1972 hit single of the same name..." Really, commonly? By whom? When? This doesn't appear as a common nickname in the infobox, is mentioned only once in the article as the title of "a greatest-hits compilation CD" and has no sources to support it. Even if this was true, it does not deserve to be stated as an essential fact in the second sentence of the lead section. 86.187.236.37 (talk) 19:58, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Agree it should be removed. The same could be said of the second sentence of the lead section over at Billy Joel, which says: "Commonly nicknamed the "Piano Man" after his album and signature song of the same name..." Again, commonly? By whom? When? Both of these should be removed as it is not sourced in either articles that either musicians are commonly known by these names. --92.15.148.117 (talk) 12:39, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I tend to agree, I've been a fan since...well, forever, yes I've heard him bieng referred to by that nickname, but "Commonly", no. I think the entire line should be removed. This is (and I agree) commonly known - FlightTime (open channel) 12:52, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

It should also be removed from the Billy Joel article too, as him being called "piano man" is even less common than Elton being called "rocket man". --92.15.148.117 (talk) 13:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I disagree. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:05, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Any change to Billy Joel is best discussed on its talk page. The main difference between the two is that Joel is a Piano Man, so the nickname is more likely and apt. John is not a Rocketman. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 16:11, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I've just removed it, but happy to discuss if anyone wishes to revert. This was added in this edit here by an editor who is now blocked as a sock puppet. WP:SOCKSTRIKE may not apply, but regardless I would argue that the previous lead was better anyway. The "Rocketman" is clearly unsourced and should not be in the lead, unless mentioned and sourced in the article. Which it isn't. Obviously he may have been called it on occasions (see the film for one example), but where is the "commonly" coming from? Why should this be mentioned in the lead paragraph? --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 16:06, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Sources for rocket man nickname

Can there be sources added for the Rocket Man nickname? 92.15.148.117 (talk) 13:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

See the section above. I've seen some sources that use this nickname but don't think that it is his everyday common nickname.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 17:37, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

Can Bluesology be added to the infobox?

Can he be added as a former member of Bluesology in the infobox? 92.15.148.117 (talk) 09:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Sort of. The infobox is a short version of the person's career, and Bluesology was never very well known. Elton's career didn't really take off until he became a solo artist and met Bernie Taupin in 1967.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 18:25, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

elton

is it not about time it was changed to 350 million plus records sold 121.75.170.83 (talk) 09:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2023

Replace "adress" with "address" in order to fix spelling. The full context can be found in the article in the phrase "during Trump's first adress to the United Nations in September 2017" Alexjamesmalcolm (talk) 04:51, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

 Done GiovanniSidwell (talk) 05:15, 26 February 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 March 2023

Today is eltons birthday 🎉🎉🎉 So his age is now 76 So please change "age 75" to "age 76" Doppysson (talk) 19:04, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

This is in the infobox and it will update automatically. It may be linked to Coordinated Universal Time so we have a few hours to go for this time zone.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:46, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit request

Extra 'married' in: "They married married in 2014, when same-sex marriage became legal in England and Wales." Burtcom (talk) 16:42, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorted Catfish Jim and the soapdish 18:44, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

Edit Request - Updated Profile Image

File:Elton Flower Wall Press Shot.jpg

Elton's profile image on his wikipedia page is outdated - please replace with this up-to-date press image of Elton. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bD2-DZraWA71bPj8Xbt9hn5aIC8QQgq1/view?usp=sharingAlexander Pullen (talk) 11:08, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

This looks like a no-no because it would be copyrighted. It is on his Instagram here from September 2022, but you have uploaded it to Wikimedia Commons describing it as your own work. Unless you are the photographer and have released the copyright, this is unlikely.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 11:20, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I'm messaging on behalf of Rocket Entertainment & we own the rights to this photo. Please let me know if I need to submit the photo in a different method? Many thanks Alexander Pullen (talk) 09:14, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

To add, we can provide proof of license if necessary. I've just received confirmation that we don't own the image, but have exclusive license to it. 93.115.192.234 (talk) 11:07, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

You could contact the Commons:Volunteer Response Team. It should be pointed out that Wikimedia Commons can only accept images that have no copyright (eg public domain) or are Creative Commons licensed. This means that it would not be possible to retain any commercial rights for the image if it was uploaded under a license that is suitable for Commons. Also, the original photographer may retain some rights to the image.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:34, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

You may also read and fill out the form here: Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries, then send this form to Wikipedia:Volunteer Response Team at permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Good luck, - FlightTime (open channel) 14:35, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

How about the cropped version of the photo of Elton John with Joe Biden from September 2022? It is on Wikcommons and is the most recent image of him available to use. --89.240.214.76 (talk) 15:56, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

The cropped Biden image is here. Technically it is ok, but artistically it is not very flattering.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 19:41, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

Davey Johnstone and Ray Cooper

Davey Johnstone and Ray Cooper should be linked at first appearance. Thanks. 86.187.175.250 (talk) 20:07, 25 June 2023 (UTC)