Talk:Emergency Fighter Program

Miniaturjägerprogramm
There was no such Program / Competition issued by the RLM oder Luftwaffe. I've read through the linked source, and I guess, it's been confused with Kleinstjäger - which means basically Tiny Fighter or Smallest Fighter. However, there wasn't even a Kleinstjägerprogramm for the officials never demanded expressively a Tiny Fighter but remained with their task for a cheap and easy to build fighter - which is plain the framework of the Jägernotprogramm. Some aircraft-manufacturers (like Arado) approached this demand by developing Kleinstjägers on their own to propose them to the Luftwaffe afterwards. The Noun Kleinstjäger was invented by the manufacturers themselves (or sometimes later on considered by historians) - still there was no such called program / project. The noun Kleinstjäger was given but only to those aircrafts where the pilot steered the device in a lying position, thus reducing the cross section to the utmost minimum. Even with the Heinkel P.1077 historians are unsure whether it is to be considered a Kleinstjäger or not. Heinkel themselves never called it that. In short: Kleinsjägers were an outcome of the Jägernotprogramm, but never a project on itself, and definitely not a Luftwaffe competition. Implementing this into the article would change it vastly. So I`d like to discuss this matter in the Talk-section before performing any major changes. Kleinalrik (talk) 07:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * The issue is that reliable sources do refer to a Miniaturjäger competition - Smith & Kay's German Aircraft of the Second World War talks in reasonable detail about the November 1944 requiremtn for the similist possible fighter that could be more rapidly produced than the He 162 - it is discussed as a separate programme from the Volkjager programme and the "Emergency Fighter" competition for a single-engine high altitude, high performance fighter powered by the Heinkel-Hirth 109-011 jet.Nigel Ish (talk) 16:06, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your detailed response. I do not own this book, so I need to go through this source first. Oddly, I cannot find any german source depicting the noun Miniaturjäger. I will get back on this topic until I found out more. Kleinalrik (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Here are some sources: November 1944 Paperback (see the cover of the book), a coeval German document, another book. --Cyfal (talk) 20:56, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for this addition. I was still going to reject your response since I still didn't find any german source and thought it's a translation error by Smith & Key. Your find is pretty convincing. Kleinalrik (talk) 14:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)