Talk:Erogenous zone/Archive 2

Butt & anus are verified erogenous zones ( much more so than fingers for most people ), what butt-hater is editing them out.
I don't know if it is just a girl who wants to discourage her boyfriend's booty obsession or what, but someone here evidently dislikes butt-play, and is trying to convince everyone that a known erogenous zone that generally rates far higher up in that department, for most, than fingers and feet ( both of which are on the page ) somehow isn't one, even though the buttocks and anus are well known to be subjects of intense sexual attraction and also of arousal. There are doctors who attest to this, sex books that attest to this. Basic knowledge of anatomy, regarding the high concentration of nerves in the anus, the proximity of the rectum to the prostate in males and to the rear portions of the clitoral crura ( clitoral legs ) in females, the and nerve and muscle connections that the anus shares with the genitals ( it isn't coincidental that the anus clenches during orgasm, and that those anal contractions play a role in the intensity of orgasms) ALL attest to this fact. Wikipedia's OWN articles about the anus, anal sex, anal masturbation etc. note the erogenous potential and sensitivity of the anus, but for some reason, some booty-hater keeps coming along and deleting all reference to it as an erogenous zone. It's dishonest, it's biased, it's misleading and inaccurate censoring and it needs to stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:150:4100:7c10:daf:e284:fb00:8379 (talk • contribs)


 * That aggressive tone and those sort of personal comments directed at other editors are not acceptable here. Stick purely to discussing the content, please. El_C 03:31, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I've never edited this article before until now —and am only here because a request was filed at WP:RfPP (which I declined — but I may yet change my mind)— but you have little chance of seeing your (lengthy) addition retained if you continue to fail citing reliable sources so that your claims can be verified. Thanks. El_C 03:41, 4 May 2019 (UTC)


 * The IP stated, "I don't know if it is just a girl who wants to discourage her boyfriend's booty obsession or what, but someone here evidently dislikes butt-play." LOL. You have the wrong person. Mention of the anus and anal sex are currently in the "Male" section of the article. Yes, we can validly add a "Buttocks" section that addresses men and women. The issue with your edits, like this latest one that was reverted, is that they are unsourced, no doubt contain some WP:Editorializing, and they also contain some WP:Undue weight. With regard to undue weight, they have seemed to be promotional in the past. For example, with this edit, your text quotes some random researcher -- Zhana Vrangalova. You kept adding that. It was like you were promoting that researcher. Your latest edit at least included mention of an additional researcher. The clitoral crura thing you added (and expressed above) has no solid sourcing in the literature (seeing as Go Ask Alice! was the only source I had for it), which is why I eventually removed it from the Anal sex article. But we do currently state in the Anal sex article the following: "Indirect stimulation of the clitoris through anal penetration may be caused by the shared sensory nerves, especially the pudendal nerve, which gives off the inferior anal nerves and divides into the perineal nerve and the dorsal nerve of the clitoris." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

El C, after this, do I need to list this article at WP:Requests for page protection again, or will you semi-protect the article? I doubt an admin will seek to range-block the IP. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 04:18, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. El_C 04:20, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

For most people, the anus is a much more erogenous zone than the toes, so whatever butt-hater keeps removing this major sexual region from the list needs to stop.
It's obviously just someone who hates butt-play pulling a lie of omission. Not everything is for everybody, but the erogenous aspects of the buttocks and anus are well documented. The muscles of the anal sphincter are involved in the pelvic floor orgasm contractions of both genders, which is a lot more than can be said for the toes and the forearms. Stop playing games, whoever you are, and let the facts stand. If you have a helpful and factual correction or note, edit it into the category, but please stop pretending that no one ever had erotic interest in another person's anus, or that no one was ever sexually aroused by having their anus touch (especially in light of the increasing pop-culture interest in and lauding of analingus), or that there is some silent majority who think toes are more sexy than butts.

Buttocks and anus
The buttocks and anus, in no small part because of their close proximity in both sexes to the genitals (the anus, rectum, penis and vagina all have major nerve connections to the pudendal nerve and other pelvic region nerve centers), are both sensitive erogenous zones, as well as being areas of erotic interest for many. Scientists consider the anal margin, along with the perineum, to be among the areas of the body grouped in as primary sexual regions or primary erogenous zones. The buttocks are a major erogenous zone but are less sensitive than breasts because they contain muscles as well as fat. In all positions, the muscular movements of coitus stimulate the buttocks. NYC-based sex researcher Zhana Vrangalova, Ph.D. ( Cornell University graduate & Adjunct Professor of Psychology at New York University ) says "...the bottom is pretty high up there when it comes to erogenous potential." Many people, male and female alike, find caressing of the buttocks to be highly arousing. For some, massage of the buttocks and even light spanking can be arousing, the latter due to the resulting vibration being felt throughout the genital area, due to proximity. The anus is involved in the orgasmic contractions of both males and females, and the anal sphincters contract during orgasm in both men and in women. For some, the insertion of an object (.e.g. a partner's finger ) into the anus during climax can result in a more intense orgasm. The area itself is full of nerve endings, and can be very sensitive to erotic stimulation, but it is also delicate, and careless or rough handling of the area can cause pain or even injury. The prostate gland in men can be stimulated via the rectum, which is entered via the anus. Likewise, the posterior regions of the internal crura and vestibular bulbs of the clitoris can be strongly palpated and stimulated via pressure to the anterior wall of the rectum, as the fleshy and fairly elastic rectovaginal wall is all that separates the vaginal canal and the rectum from one another. The pudendal nerve that branches to supply the external anal sphincter also branches to the dorsal nerve of the clitoris and the dorsal nerve of the penis. In addition to the high concentration of nerve endings in the anus itself, pleasure from anal stimulation and/or anal intercourse may be aided by the close proximity between the anus, rectum and the prostate in males, and between the anus,rectum and interior vaginal and clitoral structures in females. Stimulating pressure can be placed on the male prostate via the anus and rectum. Likewise, in females, stimulating pressure can be placed, via the anus and rectum, on portions of the clitoral crura, the clitoral vestibular bulbs, the perineal sponge, and the urethral sponge. Sex researcher Dr. Mark J. Blechner states in a 2013 Psychology Today article "... now we know that parts of the clitoris we cannot see are adjacent to the anterior wall of the vagina, and can receive stimulation either through the vagina, urethra, or anus." Pleasure from the anus can also be achieved through anal masturbation, fingering, facesitting, analingus, and other penetrative and non-penetrative acts.

Lead edits
I have edited the Lead and welcome scrutiny. Regards, IiKkEe (talk) 03:44, 10 April 2020 (UTC)


 * As noted here, you are violating an aspect of your restrictions. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 07:35, 10 April 2020 (UTC)