Talk:Eugène Marais

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To credit Richard Dawkins with Eugene Marais' ideas does a disservice to Eugene Marais. I have deleted the reference to Richard Dawkins in this article. If anything, Dawkins' book The Selfish Gene should have credited Eugene Marais for this idea as he did in his much later Edge website discussion with Pinker.

Suicide by ants?
The last revision of this article claims that Marais took his own life by means of ants. This seems unlikely to me. Also, the revision comes from an anonymous IP, and no substantiating details are provided regarding his death. Does anyone know if this information is correct? Benanhalt

Beefart says: I agree that the suggestion that Marais was killed by ants is most unlikely. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. The reference to the ants ought to be removed until evidence ia adduced. Captainbeefart 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Not so much by ants but…


 * This may resolve the issue


 * This is one of several sources I found that decribes Marais method of suicide.


 * Michael David 16:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Hello!! I just discovered, while previewing my edits of the Article, that this reference link was in the Article all along. Ain't senility grand!?!


 * Michael David 17:19, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Belgian dialects?
Something bugged me in the paragraph about Maeterlinck's plagiarism. You state he was able to read the original because he was Belgian and some Belgian dialects resemble Afrikaans. Well, that's true to some extent but you've got the words wrong. There is no such thing as a "Belgian language". We are either Flemish and therefore speak Dutch (which is in fact related closely to Afrikaans), we are Walloon and speak French or we come from the Ostkantons and speak German. I know, it's rather complicated for such a comparatively small country as ours. Maeterlinck was Flemish so he was able to speak Dutch, although he seemed to have preferred French (as most bourgeois people tended to do in those days). I've made some adaptations to settle this matter.

Beefart says: A useful clarification, to be sure. I was aware of the distinction between Walloons and the Flemish but I did not know to which group Maeterlinck belonged, so I worded the original text loosely.Captainbeefart 12:52, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Maeterlinck's parents were French-speaking, but he grew up in the town of Ghent, which is Flemish. This accounts for his bilingualism. pietopper (talk) 10:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

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Content not consistent with new research
The content that specifically refers to: 1. His London studies 2. Medical studies 3. Mission to German-East Africa (to resupply fighting Boer Commando’s) is not consistent with the research published in Carel van der Merwe’s novel Donker Stroom. Pierremeyerza (talk) 12:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Describe all the errors and changes required here, and I'll change the text. Ratel (talk) 00:15, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Recent edits
Hi thanks for making this edit. However, I am going to revert it, as while there are some improvements, there also are some substantial regressions. Marais was not born in South Africa, which didn't exist at the time, but in the South African Republic, as previously stated in the article. Some removed content and sources, such as the University of Jhb, and the Dissident Writers in Afrikaans, seem worth keeping. And replacing a specific linked term with "black tribal peoples" is not an improvement. I will attempt to restore some of the improvement after reverting, but feel free to discuss further specific changes here if you wish. Greenman (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

Translation of Winternag.
Hope no-one minds this; I am fluent in both English and Afrikaans (and several other languages). I am also an internationally published poet. Afrikaans has a terse beauty that is hard to capture in English. Some translations have also missed his sad post-war reference to 'skade.' I have also taken the liberty of translating the last word as 'cold'. So here goes:

"Winter's Night"

Oh cold the breeze and thin,

shines naked in the gloom,

As wide as God's grace,

lie the fields in starlight and ruin

and high on the ridges,

spread in the burnt-lands,

is the grass seed, stirring

like waving hands.

O sad is the tune

of the east wind's beat,

like the song of a girl

abandoned in love.

in each grass blade's fold

shines a drop of dew

and fast it pales

to frost in the cold! 2001:8003:1D51:6B00:D001:1595:DF0A:8D73 (talk) 00:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)