Talk:Europol/Archive 1

Archive 1

Map

Cyprus is missing on the map. - Fabhcún 21:24, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

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Information

The article now states: It has been decided that Europol will be converted to a full EU agency on 1 January 2010, thus simplifying the procedure to reform it; until then, reforms have to be made through an amendment to the Europol Convention.

Maybe this text should be removed entirely and instead add some more information as per the Europol website:(http://www.europol.europa.eu/index.asp?page=facts): The establishment of Europol was agreed in the Maastricht Treaty on European Union of 7 February 1992. Based in The Hague, Netherlands, Europol started limited operations on 3 January 1994 in the form of the Europol Drugs Unit (EDU) fighting against drugs. Progressively, other important areas of criminality were added. As of 1 January 2002, the mandate of Europol was extended to deal with all serious forms of international crime as listed in the annex to the Europol Convention. The Europol Convention was ratified by all Member States and came into force on 1 October 1998. Following a number of legal acts related to the Convention, Europol commenced its full activities on 1 July 1999. Lars 08:10, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Two infoboxes.

I have added the LEA infobox. The EU infobox I have left, because it does other stuff.

I will look at how the stuff can be combined into one infobox, the LEA one.

In the meantime, any comments or suggestions in this regard?

Peet Ern (talk) 23:59, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

I think we should use the EU agency box only, firstly because I personally want that box to be used for all EU agencies in a uniform way, secondly because Europol (as opposed to FBI/CIA) has few legal rights to arrest or to do other typical law enforcement. Currently, Europol is a paper-work agency that eases communication between EU member states' national police. At present it's considered to be more an intricate organisation in the EU system, rather than a law enforcer. As far as I've seen, the LEA infobox offers no desirable variables for Europol that the EU box doesn't.

To use a corny analogy; Europol's belonging in the family of EU agencies is stronger than its belonging in the family international law enforcement agencies. - $\mathrm {S}$ $\mathrm {Solberg}$ $\mathrm {J}$ 13:14, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

agree. good as the LEA box is, it's not really suitable here. ninety:one 13:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

LEA's by definition form very close ties with other law enforcement agencies. Their characteristics are much more similar to other LEAs than to other agencies of the same governing body. So, I would argue that their infobox characteristic family is more with other LEAs.

Note that the definition of LEA in Law enforcement agency includes paper work agencies, that is they actively and directly assist other LEAs, even though they do not have intrusive powers themselves. This is not unique to Europol. For example Crimtrac, an Australian law enforcement agency, has no enforcement or search powers at all, and is solely an information exchange and facilitation organisation, but has been formally declared a law enforcement agency (in part for reasons related to the legal power to handle sensitive and private information).

I do understand the dichotomy we are faced with here. This argument could be had with probably every organisation, infobox by corporate personality or infobox by type of business.

So far I am not convinced.

Peet Ern (talk) 01:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Map

Sould it not be pointing at Europols headquarters?--SelfQ (talk) 23:50, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Controversy?

The Controversy section, to be frank, is not a consistent argument as to why the current situation would be controversial. It reads like the first half of an encyclopedia paragraph. To whoever wrote it: I understand that this section needs to exist, but what are you getting at? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.17.199.113 (talk) 21:21, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Suggest delete this section unless and until there is some citeable controversy worth noting. All it does at present is note who Europol is NOT accountable to (and the mention of national MPs is pointless since no EU structure is accountable in that way). Accountability is reasonably described in the previous section. Davidships (talk) 16:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

legal basis

As of 1 January 2010 Europol is working on a new legal basis. I will try to mention this in the article soon. Ukonwatanabe (talk) 14:55, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

red dot on the map

what is it marking? definitely not the hague... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.152.1.1 (talk) 12:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering about that too. I moved the marker. 84.27.15.58 15:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

The Hague is in England?! I did not know that... 70.137.128.56 (talk) 06:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The dot appears in different places for Internet Explorer and Firefox. Given that IE is still the most commonly used browser, this should be fixed. --Douwe20 (talk) 13:34, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Using IE, it appears to be marking Berlin. The Hague is, ofcourse, on the West coast of the Netherlands. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.172.64.163 (talk) 13:48, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Budget

"Europol is accountable at EU level to the Council of Ministers for Justice and Home Affairs. The Council is responsible for the main control and guidance functions of Europol. It appoints the Director and the Deputy Directors and approves together with the European Parliament, Europol’s budget, which is part of the general budget of the EU." cited frm website: https://www.europol.europa.eu/content/page/management-147 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.94.191.131 (talk) 18:58, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

And: "The monitoring of the commitment and disbursement of expenditure as well as the establishment and collection of the income of Europol follows the general rules of the EU. Europol has to abide by the same principles as any other agency and institution of the EU, such as budgetary discipline and sound financial management. The annual accounts of Europol are subject to an audit carried out by the European Court of Auditors." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.94.191.131 (talk) 19:04, 6 August 2011 (UTC)