Talk:Euthydemus I

Polybius
Where, exactly, does Polybius give any date for Euthydemus' accession? As far as I can tell, his only mentions of Euthydemus are 11.34 (or .39) which we link to, and 10.49 which is linked to there. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 02:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Very good question. It is believed that Polybius mistakenly mentioned Diodotus I instead of Euthydemus I, when he wrote about how the former king came to power "when the kings of Syria and Media where fighting one another". That fight is apparently a reference to the rebellion of Molon against Antiochus III in 222-221 BCE. The discussion is found in Lerner's "The impact of Seleucid decline on the eastern Iranian plateau". Kindly, Sponsianus (talk) 15:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Torlonia Bust
Recently, User:ZenoTheIonian restored an image of the Torlonia bust to the infobox on the claim that it is "certified" and that coinage should be "secondary". In fact as the cited discussion in the article text shows, it is not certified; the identification with Euthydemos has been rejected by R.R.R. Smith, the world expert in Hellenistic portraiture. But even if it wasn't, why prefer a bust from Italy to a coin minted by the king himself? It makes no sense. Furius (talk) 12:10, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Because, and don’t be furious about it, (sorry), it is widely attributed to Euthydemus and is a better representation of him. One should use coins in the absence of a bust or portrait. However, if you are the author of this page I leave it up to you. Cheers ZenoTheIonian (talk) 13:33, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * haha. I take the points. There are a lot of 'zombie identifications' that were made up in the 19th century on the basis of limited information and continue to lurch around in encyclopedias long after they've been rejected by experts and I do think it's bad for wikipedia to perpetuate those. Furius (talk) 14:31, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll give this a bit more thought... Furius (talk) 14:32, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with this plate - it looks a lot like the obverse of one of Euthydemos' coins which depict Zeus... But if you've got a source for it, it's fine. I don't know why you keep adding the title 'shahanshah' or 'king of kings' to this article - the only title that we have evidence for (from the Kuliab inscription, the coins, and Polybius) is 'basileus' / 'king' Furius (talk) 11:06, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

Great wall of Derbent
How is the Great wall of Derbent, which is in caucasus, constructed by Bactrians? it was constructed by Sassanian Empire. Syed123Afzaal (talk) 18:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The link is wrong, but the fact isn't. The wall in question is located at Darbend/Derbent in Uzbekistan (here). Furius (talk) 23:13, 15 May 2022 (UTC)