Talk:Evian

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bottle neck should have a complete concept note all the time wherever being served.......... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.248.157.2 (talk) 09:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Naive?
This article is incomplete without reference to Evian spelled backwards as 'naive'. It is the only reason I originally wikipedia'd Evian and it takes up most of the discussion on this discussion page. It is also the only interesting part of the article. I added it before but someone has taken it down without explanation. I think my addition is fair and accurate, with a link to the snopes.com article that was included before but recently removed. If for some reason you feel this issue should not be mentioned please discuss it here first to get other peoples' opinions. I strongly urge inclusion of the issue in the article. - Jonathan in California 16 April 2007

Evian comes from the mountens from above in france —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kimatipa (talk • contribs) 01:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Even if a neutral point of view is something impossible to reach, I can't see why this article about the Evian water should contain these remarks about the so-called "jokes"... Some words then about the Evian-naive joke. It is a fact that "Evian" spelled backwards reads "naive". But in no case this can be taken as a private joke from the owners of the brand, since the trademark "Evian" comes from the town where it springs, i.e. Evian-les-Bains, located in the French department of "Haute-Savoie". Maybe it would be a good thing for readers to write a separate article on the jokes and explain them further on, or to forget about them ? In an encyclopaedia, this kind of information does not seem of prime importance...

I see no problem in the jokes, provided that the article is balanced with other facts about the company and products. Helzagood 01:10, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

But it's not, is the problem... Tever99 03:21, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

There seems to be only one person who is against the inclusion of the joke and his arguments are not compelling. He suggests either the joke be moved to another page (in which case he believes it is relevant) or not included because they are not of "prime importance" (he does not deny that this is important to include, just not of "prime importance".) Also he notes that Evian is probably not a joke, it is only the name of the place that water originated from, which is exactly what I say in my edit. As I said before, this urban ledgend is the original reason I wikipedia'd Evian. To not include it would make for an uninformative (and boring) article. For these reasons, and the fact that no one else has agreed with him and others have agreed with me, I will put the 'naive' section back in the article and keep putting it back if he removes it, unless a consensus otherwise is reached here in the talk page. If you have an opinion on the matter either way I would like to hear your thoughts. Thanks. --Jon in California 208.127.73.82 08:30, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I added "English" to the joke parts - "naive" is not a French word. (Actually it's the feminine of the word naïf))


 * ""naive" is not a French word" YOU ARE SO NAIVE!! Your "Naive" word was introduced in the English and American dictionaries through the French "Naïve" LOL!!! BTW for some reason the brand has removed the accent from "évian" which is the city's name to "evian". A trademark issue with the city? This is possible. FYI "evian" is not the same pronunciation than "évian" in French, but the French pronunces it as "évian" anyway because of the city's obvious reference, in the other side "naive" is not pronunced liked "naïve" in french hence the use of the "ī" character. Anyway i guess your naive joke will work in French as well since "evian" is red as "évian", "naive" will be red as "naïve". EnthusiastFRANCE 22:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

evian and évian would be pronounced the same in French anyway as it is very rare for a word to start with a a mute e.
 * "evian and évian would be pronounced the same in French anyway" ABSOLUTELY FALSE! FYI as a French myself i should know this probably better than you don't you think. of course i was not refering to a mute "e" "it is very rare for a word to start with a a mute e" this is so rare indeed that it doesn't exist!! (of course) I was refering to the difference between "e" which is prounounced like in the "e" in the English "er...", and the "é" (with accent) which is not pronounced the same at all since it's more like the "ey" in the English "hey!". "heyRVIAN" (~évian) is not the same as "erVIAN" (~evian) got it now? (this is pretty uneasy to explain as the French "e" sound doesn't exist in English as your "e" is actually pronounced like our "é"... maybe a Cajun could explain this stuff better than me)
 * (BTW for the same price, drink Liptonic! it's way better than Evian or Coke... and Critalline is cheaper!!) EnthusiastFR 01:51, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

If the 'naive' joke were not mentioned at all, along with the town of origin, several users would read this article and never escape that misconception. ---Forzan 16:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The article tells us that naive is a popular joke with evian, but it doesn't explain why. From what I gather, using common sense and context, it refers to the fact that people paying high price for bottled water are naive. Also this article doesn't address the amount of pollution bottled water (in the press, specifically evian) makes compared to tap water. I am, of course, reffering to "food miles", where tonnes of bottled water is flown in and then transported by trucks, all of which make a lot of pollution. As well as the plastic bottles themselves, many of which don't get recycled. It has been a very common and legitimate criticisms of "designer" water and has been talked about in papers and news (especially the British press) JayKeaton 18:40, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Please remember what Wikipedia is not. Wkipedia is not a place for popular-culture-only information, the Naive "joke" would not able to enter a common encyclopedia, and so, is not able to enter Wikipedia.---OZP —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.140.206.230 (talk) 02:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

its named after the town, case closed. look up your joke somewhere else on the internet, not here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapsfly (talk • contribs) 03:23, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Distribution
Evian is not marketed at McDonald's. They sell Aquafina. I have edited this to make it accurate. (Bporter28 00:20, 24 February 2006 (UTC))

For the record (even though this isn't in the article any more) McDonald's sells Dasani because Dasani is owned by Coca Cola and Aquafina is owned by PepsiCo

Nonsensical sentence structure
Opening paragraph last sentence: "Since the start of the Evian production, the water has received the rank of best water in the world by Zagat taste testers in 2005." Did Evian start in 2005? NOPE. I'm removing this sentence as it make little to now sense and whoever wrote it has little to no mastery of the English language.

This sentence struck me as rather unclear: "Since the start of the Evian production, the water has received the rank of best water in the world by Zagat taste testers in 2005." Does this mean that Evian has received the rank of best water every year from Zagat up to 2005, or just relieved it that once? I don't really know anything about Evian, so I don't want to try and fix that, but I'm hoping someone else can.

Coca-Cola brand
Evian isn't owned by Coke, but the article had it linked to the Coke brands category. Now fixed. Mind the gap 19:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

hard to get?
The article implies evian is expensive and harder to find that other bottled waters. Than volvic, say? Certainly not the case in Europe. The article does not represent a worldwide view. However, because I cannot prove the bottle is more expensive in the US, I'm not sure how to edit it. Can somebody show me that it's more expensive and hard to get and where? Here in Ireland it's the same price as other bottled water and you can get it in any shop. --85.134.179.162 23:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


 * It's not the case in the United States either. Although people still do talk about Evian as if it were pricey and exclusive, that isn't the case anymore. You can get this stuff anywhere in convenience stores, gas stations, and supermarkets, not only in urban cities and gourmet restaurants as the article says. Can someone else confirm what I say and edit the article?--67.168.0.155 04:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I have a bottle of Evian in front of me and although it was expensive compared to tap water it was only about 10p (15 US cents) more than its competitors. It is (in the UK anyway) no way high class or expensive Cls14 08:56, 6 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Have edited the page to indicate that whilst it may have been an expensive brand in the past, or may still be in some regions, there are regions in which it is not expensive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cls14 (talk • contribs) 08:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Price
What quantity is the price relating to?

An "imported brand"?
Wikipedia readers come from all over the world. Even France. Therefore, I think that calling Evian an "imported brand of mineral water" is wrong. If you want to stress its origin, how about making the words "French" or "France" more prominent? Ksero 22:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, Evian is an "imported brand" in all countries of the world except its country of origin, correct? wikipediatrix 22:08, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Certainly. So we should call all products that are exported to more than one country an "imported product"? Ford would be an "imported brand of cars", and Au_Bon_Climat would be an "imported wine that comes from California"? I beg to differ. Our esteemed reader knows best where sie is, and if a certain place is domestic or foreign from hir point of view. Ksero 00:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Probable vandalism
I have removed the statements:

1901 : Bottling of Evian water in wicker cylinders. 1984 : Opening of the hydrotherapeutic cure center at the Evian for health farm. is completely collapsible.

Since they appear to be vandalism. Please do not restore these without a specific citation, as they both seem very unlikely. M0ffx 19:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

high-end and upscale
I reverted this edit because I find the words "high-end" and upscale to be peacock words. See WP:PEA. If you can find a reliable source that says that Evian is a high-end mineral water, you can put it back in the article. — Ksero 11:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

coming
I added the word coming. Before the lead just said "from several sources", but I changed it to "coming from several sources". Vexperiential (talk) 15:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

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Expensive? Imported? High end?
Are you kidding me? Evian is not a high end luxury water. You must be joking or something. My Finé at $7.00 per bottle, is an expensive water.

But this, is cheap nasty crap I can buy anywhere. Can we get this fixed please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorahk (talk • contribs) 05:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

sale&marketperformance
if an can explain —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.123.179.166 (talk) 20:03, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Dancing roller babies
Isn't Evian famous for this commercial? If so, add it to the article. 24.5.173.217 (talk) 06:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC)