Talk:Exchequer of the Jews

names are wrong
should be “, Benedictus de Talemunt” and “Josephus Aaron Judei” as listed from uk gov house of commons website as taken from “ The words were these, Benedictus de Talemunt et Josephus Aaron Judei, Justiciarii Judeorum. Then there was the Close Roll of 31st of Henry III., containing these words, Sacramentum fidelitatis Regi debitum pretextu officii sui; and in the Close Roll of the 33d of Henry III., was this passage:— "Abrahamus filius Vines sit clericus Regis in scaccario Judeorum, loco Abrahami filii Muriel; acceptis ab eodem Abrahamo sufficientibus plegiis de fidclitate." Thus were Jews admitted to those offices. Again, the Close Roll of the 4th of Edward I. contained the following passage:— "Quum Dominus Henricus Rex habere solebat quendam Judeum intendentem officio eschaetarix de catallis et tenementis quæ ad ipsum quâcum-que ratione contigerint, assignavimus Benedictum de Winton Judeum ad idem, &c., accepto ab eodem Sacramento corporali fideliter quod se habebit in officio predicto quamdiu steterit in eodem, &c."

see also https://www.forgottenbooks.com/it/download/AHistoryoftheJewsinEngland_10024449.pdf

96.242.22.176 (talk) 13:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)


 * It would help if you could articulate your problem more clearly (and linking to a 400+-page pdf without a specific page reference doesn't exactly help matters). What I think you're disputing is the article's claim that, when a national Exchequer of the Jews was established in c. 1200, two of the first recorded "justices of the Jews" were named Benjamin de Talemunt and Joseph Aaron (sourced to the Jewish Encyclopedia (1906), and accurately reporting what that source says). You say that the names should be "Benedictus de Talemunt" and "Josephus Aaron Judei". On the first, you appear to be correct, although as this article is written in English, we would render his first name as "Benedict". I will make that correction. On the second, "Judei" ("of the Jews") is just a descriptor, not part of his name, and can be ignored: rendering his name in English as Joseph Aaron is therefore correct, and nothing needs to be changed. GrindtXX (talk) 14:19, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
 * you got it! That’s it, just that it’s not Benjamin - but imho, really also should put the latin names in parenthesis so people can search for further info because wiki names only reveal same info you have on wiki, book is for sourcing if you needed mores than just British commons site (also on their parliament site).  (using a very old tablet with a terribly clunky keyboard, so pardon my writing style or lack of). 96.242.22.176 (talk) 16:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)