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The title of the opera Pagliacci does not have the article "I" in front of it. Please revert that correction.--Gciriani (talk) 22:22, 4 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In an edit which was mainly concerned with wikilinks for some of her roles, I removed the Category:American actors because I could find no evidence in the article for that category. User:Gciriani then re-added that category with the edit summary: "reinstated actors since she appeared in a major film production". I looked at her IMDb entry and still couldn't find any non-opera films. Opera singers whose performances have been filmed are not categorised as actors; see e.g. Plácido Domingo who is in 40 categories, or Joan Sutherland who is in 27 categories, but neither is categorised as an actor despite a significant list of films at IMDb. I know of course that the profession of opera singer involves acting, but for the purpose of categorising people in Wikipedia articles, that category is limited to actors of the spoken word. I suggest to remove that category. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:47, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Michael, I understand your rationale, and I will not object if you eliminate the category American actors from this article. My interpretation was that whoever appears in a movie is an actor. I imagined that the filming of the Carmen was not just passive filming of a regular opera, but that there were several takes over several weeks. Also I imagine that the film director interacted with the performers to affect their stage performance in an acting way. The movie was nominated for a Golden Globe Award as best foreign movie, and the Wikipedia entry for the movie says " is one of the most highly acclaimed film versions of the opera". The director Francesco Rosi is a legit director of mainstream movies. Again, I will defer to your suggestion, and not revert your delete, if you decide that my rationale is not enough to keep this category in this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gciriani (talk • contribs) 14:40, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen that film several times (that's why I mentioned Domingo who also starred in other cinematic opera adaptations, e.g. Zeffirelli's 1983 Traviata and 1986 Otello, the 1993 live Tosca from Rome, and he is not categorised as an actor; Migenes is different.) and I can understand your motives. However, the Category:Actors is limited to actors of the spoken word. Once I get around to add links for the remaining unlinked roles in Esham's career (Juliette, Manon, Gilda, Cendrillon, Marguerite, Leila, Baby Doe, Ännchen, Cherubino, Musetta, Susanna), I'll remove that category. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:06, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
