Talk:Fall to Grace

critical reception
The album has been out for three days, we need to get the reviews. Here some:

The Guardian UK

BBC Music

Digital Spy

The Independent UK

The Express UK

--91.154.99.187 (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested move 24 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain t/ c 17:53, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Fall to Grace (album) → Fall to Grace – The film isn't notable in the slightest compared to the album - and we don't need a disambiguation page if there are only two topics and one is primary. Unreal7 (talk) 23:34, 24 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose firstly dab page was incomplete - since en.wp was mislinking links about the 2005 film to the 2013 film. Secondly oppose as no Google Book evidence presented, thirdly 5 items featured on en.wp. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:47, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Certainly by usage (September views):
 * Fall to Grace (album): 1,756 views
 * Fall to Grace (film): 215 views
 * others: zero
 * So, 89% of views for the album. And nothing else has more long-term significance. Even with the expanded dab page, the album is a clear primary topic. Dohn joe (talk) 14:54, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well it isn't "zero" just because you haven't counted stats.grok.se for mentions of other topics on Jay Bakker Jim McGreevey René Alvarado Truly Indie List of Trapper John, M.D. episodes. Obviously pop albums get more because pop is popular. But this is still an encyclopedia that has to serve more than pop music. More to the point stats.grok only reflects what we provide, and we disproportionately provide post 2000 pop articles. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:24, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
 * IIO, I genuinely don't get why such blatant facts keep going right over your head. The album is the primary topic all day long. None of the other "Fall to Grace"'s have a patch of notability in comparison. You keep opposing songs/albums being the primary topic solely because they are songs/albums - please stop doing that. Unreal7 (talk) 19:00, 27 October 2015 (UTC)


 * Support per nom and Dohn joe. Facts are stubborn things, IIO.  Calidum   00:56, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


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