Talk:Fanny Adams

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Frederick Baker
Dear Fanny Adams article creators,

Greetings from a newbie. I've written an article on Frederick Baker the British-Austrian film director and would love to tweak things a bit: a search for "Frederick Baker" automatically goes to this article, about the murderer. I would think more people are searching for info on the current non-murderer guy; in any case, it's a shame to hang the name of a murderer around the current Fred's neck. Can we make it so "Frederick Baker" doesn't automatically redirect here? Please let me know. Thanks much.

Toanke (talk) 18:35, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * We can either turn Frederick Baker into a disambiguation page that lists Frederick Baker (director) and a link to this article, or we can make Frederick Baker the director's article and add a hatnote to that article pointing to this article if looking for the murderer. Or we can just leave as is with Frederick Baker (director) and its hatnote to this article. – ukexpat (talk) 19:11, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message, Ukexpat. The second possibility would be my first choice. How might I/we proceed? Toanke (talk) 21:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * We will have to ask an admin to do it - I'll make a request at WP:RM. – ukexpat (talk) 22:03, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I have made a move request: Requested moves. – ukexpat (talk) 22:09, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * I appreciate it. I'll wait to hear more. Toanke (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ – ukexpat (talk) 02:57, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

You're the best! Thank you & greetings to a UK expat in the US from a US expat in the EU. Toanke (talk) 07:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Unsupported assertion?
I question the un-cited passage:
 * "The way her body had been strewn over a wide area presumably encouraged speculation that parts of her had been found at the Royal Navy victualling yard in Deptford."

Given that Deptford is in London, somewhere around 50 miles from Alton, such speculation seems unlikely even for matelots, normal military humour would be more than sufficient. I suggest that if this passage cannot be cited specifically to one of the sources, it should be removed. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 185.74.232.130 (talk) 11:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

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House numbers aren't
The house numbers given in the article (and presumably copied from the reference given) aren't house numbers in the modern sense (publically assigned numbers: eg 10 Downing Street); they are the numbers used in the census enumerator's schedule (for internal census purposes). Looking at the 1861 census returns, the numbering continues uninterrupted from the preceding locality (Cutpound) and continues uninterrupted into the next location (Amery Hill): number 127 is Cutpound Engine House, Tannery Lane premises run from 128 to 148 inclusive, the first property in Amery Hill is number 149. I won't comment on how far this affects the reliability of the source which takes schedule numbers to be street numbers and offers a dubious explanation as to why the street numbers are so high, but I will lose the numbers (and the dubious explanation) from the article. Rjccumbria (talk) 12:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Sweet F.A.
Err, are we sure that the F.A. in "Sweet F.A." means "Fanny Adams"....? I'm aware of this as a contraction of "Sweet F*ck all", meaning "Absolutely nothing", rather than Fanny Adams meaning something unidentifiable, from the macabre meat root.
 * Differences between British English and American English are possible. I don't know which one you're referring to. As a side note: you should sign your comments by writing 4 tildes  at the end of your comment. Nakonana (talk) 10:48, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Better picture should be used
There’s an actual picture showing her which would be better to use than the rubbish police sketch. 2A02:C7C:62E7:7800:753E:D63D:5B80:4CD1 (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Came here to say this. Since I'm not the only one thinking that, I'm going to switch the positions of the actual portrait and the illustration. Though, I rather think that the illustration might belong in the investigation or legacy section. The illustrations should probably also be transferred to Commons. Nakonana (talk) 10:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I hadn't previously noticed that an image purporting to be an actual photograph of Fanny Adams was now being used on this page. I would suggest that given the very extensive coverage that this case received at the time of the incident and in the many years since, the fact that this photograph appears to originate from Pinterest (from which it now appears to have been removed) rather than an historic media source should suggest it is treated with a very large degree of scepticism.Mighty Antar (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Fair point. I didn't check the source.
 * I tried to do a reverse image search and found the image in an article from 2015, so, 7 years before it was uploaded to Commons, but the article doesn't state the source of the image (or at least it isn't visible on mobile browser):
 * https://www.historyanswers.co.uk/people-politics/the-gruesome-origin-of-sweet-fanny-adams/
 * Another article from a newspaper (?) that used the image (after it was uploaded to Commons) can be found here: https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/23143260.local-girl-fanny-adams-savagely-tragically-murdered/
 * The museum in Hampshire only uses a photo of the siblings in one of their internet publications: https://www.hampshireculture.org.uk/sites/default/files/inline-files/FannyAdams.pdf
 * On Find A Grave the image was available as early as 2007: https://findagrave.com/memorial/11421226/fanny-adams/photo . Nakonana (talk) 15:38, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It may well have been added on Find A Grave in good faith after being lifted from some other website, but basically its an unsourced image of a young girl that probably dates from roughly the right period which has done the rounds on the internet.Mighty Antar (talk) 18:24, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Page title
The article is almost entirely about the murder, rather than the person, so shouldn't this article be at Murder of Fanny Adams? Thryduulf (talk) 18:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)