Talk:Farmer–Citizen Movement

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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Politics/Political parties regarding the inclusion of the party flag in the infobox of this article. The thread is Party flags in infoboxes. Thank you. — Ætoms  [talk] 23:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

Political position
Why is right wing deleted as most recent sources both English and Dutch described them as right wing. If you read body they can't be centrist party but placed on centre right to right as described by NRC source (unexplained deleted). The best solution is renove it as whole and put in body.Shadow4dark (talk) 20:33, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Left-wing media outlets are not reliable, they try to frame many conservative, libertarian, market based economic, patriotic and law and order positions as "far-right" or "right-wing populist" while refusing to use the terms "left-wing populists" or "socialist extremists" for politicians such as Bernie Sanders, Jeremy Corbyn, Ilhan Omar or AOC. 80.131.55.90 (talk) 01:43, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

While I can see why BBB is not considered centrist, they're neither right-wing. Most media outlets have used centre-right to describe the party's platform, albeit with 'populism' on some issues. Yes, they have voted for motions that have a right-wing to far-right aspect (mostly submitted by PVV, FVD), but that does not necessarily mean BBB is right-wing. They voted for motions from left-wing to far-left parties as well, but that would not make them left-wing nor far-left. On most issues they lean centre-right, and on social-economic issues they tend to vote along with left-of-center parties. So centre-right would make a much more fitting label.

I find it weird at the least to just remove the label altogether because some editors cannot agree on the party's ideology. Some argue that those using centre to centre-right are politically motivated, but what about those using right-wing? I haven't seen any hard evidence from neither side, so it would be much fairer to stick with centre-right as this seems to have the most consensus according to 'even' progressive media. 62.163.106.46 (talk) 12:05, 6 April 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.17.209.220 (talk)


 * i know most sources put them on centre right but some wikipedia users putting "centrist" or "far right" with one source and removing common labels without good explanation. Shadow4dark (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
 * In Google  centre right gives 310.000  hits against 2.610.000 right wing ] Shadow4dark (talk) 22:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Christian democracy
The party has a bug christian Democratic wing, mainly from former CDA supporters. 2A02:3030:818:8833:1:0:DBA:44F7 (talk) 20:15, 8 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Conservatism is included on infobox Shadow4dark (talk) 20:23, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Elected representatives
In the past, I have removed these lists from all pages. Because nobody bothers to keep them updated and we already have List of members of the House of Representatives of the Netherlands, 2023–present and sometimes lists per party. I would recommend using these instead of creating new lists on this page. Dajasj (talk) 15:29, 2 December 2023 (UTC)