Talk:Ferdows Garden

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Two requests. Firstly, could someone please check the dates in the entry? The sources from which I have taken the dates are not consistent and one of them even mixes the dates very badly (the dates that I give largely rely on my personal judgement rather than on a blind following of my sources). Secondly, a nice and representative photograph of Bagh-e Ferdows would be very appropriate. --BF 05:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

BehnamFarid has commented on this article
Anyone watching this article might like to review the comments that BehnamFarid wrote on my talk page. I won't be re-arranging the article myself; I just fixed a typo or two. John of Reading (talk) 21:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks to John of Reading for redirect note to his talk page. Apologize to BF if edit misconstrued his original concept. Intention was a 'good faith effort' in reconfiguration of article for environmental design depth, finding very interesting information  'hidden'  in footnotes. Since the article was short, respectfully  'exposed'  them for more readers to see (not miss).  Had not seen that particular focused discussion elsewhere in wiki, or in decades of study as a landscape architect. Expertise is in environmental design history, not Persian-Iranian cultural history, so understand edit could be missing intended context or focus. Possible to leave info there until article is rewritten?  If not wise please inform and will revert article to previous edit before mine. Look2See1   t a l k →  04:07, 14 May 2010 (UTC)


 * First, my thanks to both User:John of Reading and User:Look2See1.
 * Second, Look2See1: I would have been the first to admit that the text of the main page was in need of a serious revision; as I have explained on the talk page of John of Reading (i.e. here), the way the entry on Bāgh-e Ferdows took its final form was somehow forced on me by the developments regarding the entry on Bāgh, about which you could read on the talk page of the latter entry; briefly, at the time it was not certain that the entry on Bāgh would survive (the behaviour of one particular editor made that I stopped my work on Bāgh altogether, so that Bāgh also took a form that is far removed from its intended form --- to save the entry from being deleted, some started to turn it into an entry on gardening, one of the reasons why some are now arguing that it must be merged with some other related articles). While I greatly appreciate your recent contribution to Bāgh-e Ferdows, the new organization is most unfortunate: the entry is meant to be about a place, a historical palace complex in Tehran with a considerable significance to the cultural life of that city, named Bāgh-e Ferdows, and not about either Bāgh or Ferdows; in its present form, by giving prominence to what originally was only meant to be a guide to the origins of the name, Bāgh-e Ferdows itself has tuned into a minor footnote to the entry. To clarify, imagine the Wikipedia entry on Washington, D.C., beginning with an extensive discussion about George Washington and his ancestry. Unfortunately, right now I am under time pressure and consequently have no time to spend on the entry; I just pay a daily visit to Wikipedia for having a quick look into the developments of the Wikipedia entries on my watch list, without intending to spend any time here, so that the only thing that I can do right now is just respectfully asking you to pay attention to my concern regarding your changes to the original structure of the entry. You might consider to begin with the original structure of the entry, but then create a new section in which to expand on what you consider as interesting but inappropriately placed in footnotes. In this way, the entry maintains its character as one about Bāgh-e Ferdows the place, with additions and modifications that satisfy your editorial taste. With kind regards, --BF 08:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC).