Talk:Fire eating

Image removals
Removed the "Other photographs" section as images were not of fire eating Jcrs 13:16, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Image replacement
I noticed that the previous image of the fire eater was removed, I'm guessing because of copyright violation? I'm adding a new one, and would like to note that the current two pictures (the cast iron torches and the guy eating in front of a ferris wheel) are both original photography by me, and are licensed appropriately in the wikimedia commons. Enjoy! Phidauex 16:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

Extinguish
I have taken the extinguish "Put a Cigar/Cigarette out on tongue" as this is not a form of fire-eating it is merely pain endurance and does not follow any of the conventions of fire eating. (which involve putting the flame out without burning yourself by using physics and chemistry laws to to your advantage).


 * What about the quote on "tolerating pain"? I think that's misleading and a bit of an overstatement rather, as I've never burnt myself at all.  75.46.24.175 15:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

not cold fire?
But then does the hat set on fire with "spirit" alcohol (probably ethanol) not burn? Why don't the cotton balls burn? They too were soaked in spirit. No? Or does the act with cotton balls work with the cotton balls themselves burning? Is this the effect of a wick which on the most part, does not burn as long as there's liquid material feeding it?

And why can we light the same type of fire directly on our hands and skin without getting burnt? If it does burn hair, why does it burn the hair and not the hat?

I saw an experiment with exploding hydrogen-filled soap suds in the hand. The woman doing the experiment felt the heat and heard the boom, but her hand was seemingly not affected. Why? Is this a case of the explosion energy and heat directed upward, or the thin layer of soap and water on her hand somehow protecting them, or an accumulation of both (water with soap and energy direction)?

And why is alcohol usually chosen? Why not just plain old burning wood, or burning parafene candles, or gasoline?

The answers to these questions should also be incorporated in the article because they are usually part of the act. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2017 (UTC)


 * OK, so it turns out according to the Classic Chemistry Demonstrations book (Pub: Royal Society of Chemistry, on Google Books) that there IS some sort of a "cold fire" involved. It's the high percentage of water in the "spirit" that evaporates while the alcohol burns. The evaporation takes away much of the energy and cools the hands, cotton ball, hat and tongue. And NOT as listed in the article only depending on the fast fire-extinguishing! פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 14:05, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Big Ideas in Chemistry
— Assignment last updated by ChemWorx (talk) 12:52, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Guiness Record
The first thing i noticed that needed an edit, was the fact that the guiness record that was previously mentioned in this article was out dated, and so i wrote a little bit about the new record, and added a new source that references where i got the information from. Clevine3 (talk) 02:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

"Cold Flame"
When I initially read the article, i felt that there wasn't initially any evidence supporting that it is impossible for the magicians to be using a cold flame, and so i found a source that touches on that subject, and adjusted the following line to make it sound more fluid. Clevine3 (talk) 02:46, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Implied Danger
When i did some further research on the topic of fire eating, i discovered that there was a particular reputable source that touches on the fact that even when the trick is done 100% properly, there are still unspoken about dangers that affect the magician. The article I added touches on this concept. Clevine3 (talk) 19:00, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

How to deal with implied danger
Shortly after discovering about the implied danger discussed above, i also found a separate video that discusses how to resolve or treat these issues. I felt that this was beneficial, so i cited it as well. Clevine3 (talk) 19:02, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Specification of what Fire Eatting entails
The final edit i made to this article, was citing a source after the first paragraph that in depth describes the difference between fire eatting, ansd any other trick that magicians may use involving fire. I felt this would be beneficial for anybody that is looking for any further information on the topic. Clevine3 (talk) 19:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Further highlights on dangers
i added a few more references that go into further depth on exact injuries that have been caused by people attempting to perform the trick Clevine3 (talk) 18:53, 27 November 2023 (UTC)