Talk:First Mexican Empire

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The First (and Second) Mexican Empire are not "former" countries, anymore than the French Empire is a former country that existed in what today is France. Should we say that the Spanish Republic is a former country too? The First Empire is Mexico itself under a monarchical form of government. Should Mexico change his form of government back to monarchy (or to parliamentary democracy) the country will not cease to exist, and a new country (as a state) will not born, but simply a different regime that might operate under a different name. Metaphorically a new "country" can be born with any new president in office, but that is not the case. Claiming that the Mexican Empire was a different country is a biased historical revisionism with no sources to back it up. -- the D únadan 00:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Inconsistent Dates
In the article intro it reads that the First Mexican Empire existed from 1821 to 1823, but in the History section there's this:

"The First Mexican Empire was short-lived, lasting only eight months from July 21, 1822 to March 19, 1823 [...]"

What dates are correct? Zealander (talk) 05:16, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

The year 1821. is the year of formal declaration of independence from Spain. Emperor wasn't elected until July 21st, 1822. when First Mexican Empire was de facto proclaimed. 109.111.231.92 (talk) 17:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Inconsistent Dates
In the article, it reads "...the declaration of independence on September 15, 1821...", but the link to the declaration only reads another date - "September 28, 1821." [Another link to this article also refers to a Cry of Dolores or Cry of Independence on September 16, 1810.] The 13 days difference appears to be a result of the Julian to Gregorian calendar conversion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 22:28, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Brazil (1822–1889) · Haiti (1804–1806 ·  1811–1820 ·  1849–1859)
 * Ibero-American monarchies
 * sorry, but Haiti = ibero-America? - nem é ibero America e nem fica no mainland — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.81.123.108 (talk) 18:12, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Empires in the Americas
The opening paragraph says "for a short time, together with the Empire of Brazil, it was one of two empires in the Americas" which confuses me - is it suggesting that was the only time there were 2 empires at the same time? That would seem unlikely unless there is some definition for empire being used which excludes those which preceded them? Can this sentence be removed as incorrect?  &#9749;  Antiqueight  haver 23:00, 7 April 2016 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 15:11, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Languages
Does anyone know what languages were acutally commonly spoken in the Empire? The article was recently edited to include English as well as Spanish, but I cannot find a reliable citation for English and it seems quite doubtful. I will not remove English just yet, but there will need to be some citation for English's inclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antisquark01 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

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Coat of arms of the First Mexican Empire
Hello, I have noticed while reading the article, that the coat of arms is wrong. I noticed that in this photograph: the mantling says “Mexico Religion Independencia Union” but on this image:  it only says “Religion Independencia Union.” talk 7:32, 17 June 2022 (EST)