Talk:Flipping Out

Real Estate License
In one episode there is a shot of Jeff browsing MLS. What kind of Real Estate license does he have? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.56.64.138 (talk) 15:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

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All of the cast information is credited via Bravo's site. I don't know how to cite this, but it's all there in the bio videos.

I edited out the link for Jeff Lewis, as it was misdirecting to another Jeff Lewis that was definitely not the right Jeff Lewis. 66.207.82.241 06:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh thanks, I ran across the page, and fixed the info box, but ironically I was watching the show at the time, so I figured I would flesh the article out a bit, but I didn't bother to check the first initial link, so thanks! Ariel ♥ Gold 06:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Not reality
This isn't a reality show, these people are all actors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs)
 * I would refer you to the referernces in the article. Jeff Lewis is indeed, a real estate "renovator". While some of his employees certainly (and undeniably, as they say so often) desire to get into acting, the show is, in its format, a reality show. Ariel ♥ Gold 01:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

ALL reality shows are fake and this is no different. They're all actors following a script and they're not related to each other by blood as they sometimes claim. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.245.241 (talk) 15:58, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Actually one of the guys on the was on Chappelle's Show and Punk'd, i.e actors; this is a gig. The show is staged improv not REALITY. This isn't advertising for Bravo, but an encyclopaedia. All those references REEK of PR stunts. Arthurian Legend 01:49, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
 * It is no secret that the "assistant" Chris has been on those shows, and his wife on others, nor that the references refer to the release of the show. Considering it hasn't been out more than what, a month or so, the "success" of the show is certainly up in the air. However, it is still the format used by the rest of Bravo's shows, and if you say this is made up, then you'd have to apply that to the rest of the "(Title) Out" shows, and back that claim up with valid references. I personally don't care either way, I happened to have it on (because that's the channel that the TV was on when I turned it on, lol) and simply cleaned up the article. But either way, time is the only thing that will tell what the 'notability' of the show is. As of now, it is just about as notable as any of Bravo's other shows that have articles. I would also point out that one of the references is from the New York Times, which is indisputably a WP:RS. And, the fact remains, that this is what this guy Jeff does, regardless of if he's on television, so it isn't staged, he'd still be doing the house selling thing regardless, as he'd been doing for years prior to this silly show. Ariel ♥ Gold 01:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * Their conversations, their interactions (I mean, the cat thing! he didn't even pet or enjoy his cat after taking his day off), I'm not saying he doesn't do what he does, i'm saying the show isn't his real life. These people aren't real.  AND yes PR does go through the NYTimes.  have you read the article? I'm going to figure out where Ms. Bellifante got her information, I'm sure TV bloggers will figure this out soon enough, for now leave it, but you and I know this show is not reality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs)
 * The people are as "real", as you or I are. They have their lives, some of them work not only for this guy, but in the entertainment industry. From the first show that is shown not only in the opening credits, but spoken of often by the people in question. But think about it: If you had a television trained on you for 8 hours a day, do you honestly think you'd act the same way you'd act otherwise? Could any of us say this? I'm not saying that NYT doesn't do articles with regards to PR, I'm saying it is a reliable source as far as Wikipedia policy goes. Do you honestly think any "reality" show is real? Of course they aren't "real". As in quantum theory, the act of observing, disturbs the observed. Ariel ♥ Gold 02:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * The only thing I had to notice to convince me this show is fake is that everyone on the show is beautiful. It's like Baywatch for house flipping. -WW 07:59, 18 June 2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.191.133.142 (talk)
 * That's your opinion. And although the one guy did work on other reality shows, it's the ONE GUY. Maybe he's faking it just so he can get on TV, but that doesn't mean everyone is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.160.222.253 (talk) 20:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Wording - "Platonic friendship"
In the paragraph under "Cast" titled "Jenny Pulos", a sentence says: "Lewis and Pulos share a platonic friendship.". Isn't a friendship per definition platonic (platonic I define as: "a relationship which is not sexual in nature")? I can see the point in saying "a platonic relationship", but would never say "platonic friendship". Then I would only say "friendship". I am well aware of some today talking about "friends with benefits", a.k.a. friends who also share a sexual relationship, but if we stick to regular meanings of these terms, I wouldn't really define such a relationship as a friendship. The second it turned sexual in nature, it becomes something else (which of course also can include being friends, just like a married couple can also be friends, but they are first and foremost a married couple). Also, it shouldn't be necessary to explain that an employer and employee do not share a sexual relationship, after all, not doing so, pretty much is "employer 101" (most would consider a boss who goes into a sexual relationship with an employee unethical, even if there may be exceptions, sometimes a boss and employee ends out marrying). Also, in this case, most would understand that a relationship between the two more than a friendship isn't something very likely to happen, after all Jeff Lewis is openly gay.

Sorry for this long explanation when the issue simply is, wouldn't it make sense to here remove the word "platonic"? Seems to me that it is just what we here in Norway call "Butter on Lard" (not necessary, too much)... Since English is not my native language, I felt a bit unsure (maybe it is common to write it like this e.g. in the US?), and felt like asking somebody else.

If you guys agree, maybe one of you can just do the edit when you've read this? In case I forget to go back to check...

Thanks a lot! :)

Peapeam (talk) 18:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

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