Talk:Flying fish

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Behavior

 * Flyingfish use this ability to escape predators (they can't see beyond the water's surface).

Who can't see, the flyingfish or the predators? AxelBoldt 20:21, 27 August 2005 (UTC)


 * Always? I think they also have playful jumping too.  They jump in and out of the water in schools similar to how dolphins do. CaribDigita 02:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)


 * I think 'escaping predators' isn't really an incentive to evolve the ability to glide for 40 seconds (!), is it? Information on the evolutionary background would be a good addition, I think. Junuxx (talk) 04:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)


 * If something were stalking me with the intent to kill and eat me, I would think that the ability to essentially disappear for up to 45 seconds, then reappear hundreds of feet away, would be an extremely useful survival trait.Ormewood (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
 * From How and why do flying fish fly? by John Davenport in Reviews in Fish Biology and Fisheries
 * http://www.springerlink.com/content/khk627264325j4r6/
 * "Flying fish probably fly mainly to escape from predators, particularly dolphin-fishes (Coryphaena hippurus) and ommastrephid squid."
 * Jake (talk) 00:29, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

"Some accounts have them landing on ships' decks." I can assure you they do. On a navy destroyer with freeboard of 8 to 10 feet the deck each morning was littered with dozens of flying fish when we cruised the tropical Pacific. You could hear them smack the side of the hull during the night. User:Dbryant 94560 —Preceding undated comment added 04:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC).
 * This 'some accounts' language was not apt and I have removed it (as well as an irrelevant link to Kon-Tiki). It is "common knowledge" and has been so for centuries that flying fish often end up on accidentally on vessel decks. 74.103.223.36 (talk) 18:21, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

The ship I was on also had a freeboard in the 10-foot range. The flying fish in the Caribbean would glide considerably higher than that. We often saw them in the daytime. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.233.167.50 (talk) 19:32, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Here is evidence of one that landed on the deck of a ship. Also a very good picture of a specimen. http://i.imgur.com/qy8KfFz.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1948:212:FE80:D152:C2A:5A94:99A7 (talk) 02:51, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

How I plan to edit the flying fish article - behaviour portion in particular

All feedback welcome!

Planning on adding a section titled Behaviour, in which i will detail the flying behaviour of flying fish. I will cover the utilization of such behaviour as a mode of predator evasion as well as other suggested explanations such as energy conservation, entrance into a new and food-rich environment, and enjoyment and play. With each explanation I will weigh the plausibility of that explanation - does this make evolutionary sense? - Is this enough pressure for natural selection? - Why evolve this way? etc... I will also contrast this behaviour with simply jumping out of the water playfully (though it may be a partial reason/explanation for flying fishes behaviour). My research has thus far has me to conclude predator evasion is the most likely explanation for the evolution and adaptation of such a behaviour in nature - predation places much stress on survival therefore it is a strong factor which shapes evolutionary development. I will cover the evolutionary background of 'flying' in flying fish including fin/wing development (evolutionary and morphological). Differences in flying' behaviour between 2-finned and 4-finned flying fishes will be compared and contrasted including specific predators of 2- vs 4-finned flying fishes and how this may have affected their evolution (and other way around - how difference in predators and their hunting techniques may have led to differences in development of flying fish).

Other points and areas to work on/include: -Clarify who can't see beyond the water's surface - predator or prey? (requested on talk page) -pictures and/or videos (requested on talk page) -see if i can find size and weight measurements (requested on talk page) -look up Santa Catalina Island, California - (requested on talk page) BUT see if relevant? -general article clean up and grammar (feedback suggestion) -reference additions where needed (requested on talk page) -try to find information concerning behavioural differences between populations (feedback suggestion) - 2-finned vs 4-finned, colder water habitat vs warmer water habitat, juveniles vs mature adults etc...

Bibliography   - thus far

Davenport, J. (1994). How and why do flying fish fly?. Reviews in Fish Biology and Fisheries, 4(2), pp.184-214.

First flying fish fossil found. (2012). Nature, 491(7423), pp.163-163.

Fish, F. (1990). Wing design and scaling of flying fish with regard to flight performance. Journal of Zoology, 221(3), pp.391-403.

Gibb, A., Ashley-Ross, M., Pace, C. and Long, J. (2011). Fish out of water: terrestrial jumping by fully aquatic fishes. Journal of Experimental Zoology Part A: Ecological Genetics and Physiology, 315A(10), pp.649-653.

Kutschera, U. (2005). Predator-driven macroevolution in flying fishes inferred from behavioural studies. Annals of the History and Philosophy of Biology, 10, pp.59-77.

Parenrengi, A., Tenriulo, A. and Ali, S. (2016). GENETIC VARIABILITY OF THREE POPULATIONS OF FLYING FISH, Hirundichthy oxycephalus FROM MAKASSAR STRAIT. Indonesian Aquaculture Journal, 7(1), p.1.

Parin, N. and Bogorodskiy, S. (2011). Distribution and morphology of flying fish Cypselurus hexazona placed into a separate subgenus Zonocypselurus subgen. nov. Journal of Ichthyology, 51(8), pp.658-661.

Subbaraman, N. (2012). Oldest flying fish fossil found in China. Nature. Ml3124 (talk) 00:52, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks!Subscript 152.117.79.125 (talk) 16:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

Tobiko roe?
The roe of which species is most commonly served as "tobiko" in sushi restaurants?--Sonjaaa 18:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Probably the Japanese flying fish, Cheilopogon agoo. I'll see if I can add it. =Axlq 04:50, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

"Flying" fish
I have to say, even though someone reverted the link (and rightly so), that this video is amazing: "Flying fish" indeed (but wrong species). It's the most effortless fishing I've ever seen. I wonder what kind of fish they are? =Axlq 01:24, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Link is broken.Ormewood (talk) 01:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Picture of Flying fish
Hey, there is a real picture of a "flying fish" flying! Here is the link, can anyone please upload it to wikipedia please, : http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/26/eveningnews/main523372.shtml —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mmuak (talk • contribs) 17:47, 18 December 2006 (UTC).


 * Well, two issues here: One, there's no picture of a fish on this page, just a picture of Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, and two, the article in question is talking about Asian carp, which are just able to leap out of the water for a fair distance. They aren't flying fish, and aren't related to them.Ormewood (talk) 01:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Road to Mandalay
Rudyard Kipling once wrote of "the road to Mandalay/Where the flying fishes play/ And the (something)(something) China 'cross the bay"...Okay, so his geography was a bit off (Mandalay being in inland Myanmar/Burma and China being much, much further inland from that point, while flying fish are marine types of fish) but all the unrest in Burma reminded me of that poem. 204.52.215.107 00:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

What is the weight of a flying fish?
I have no idea of the weight of a flying fish so if anyone knows can they please tell me?! PLEASE!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.208.81.50 (talk) 21:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Sizes???????????? Weird article with no measurements at all! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 18:16, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
 * @ Underline 152.117.79.125 (talk) 16:19, 28 March 2023 (UTC)

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Santa Catalina Island
Santa Catalina Island off California is famous for flying fish and should be mentioned. Flying fish are mentioned in the Wikipedia article about Catalina, so it makes sense to include that species in this article. They are a big part of the tourist business there, so arguably are more important to Catalina than they are to Barbados.Lmonteros (talk) 00:58, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Temporal range
Updated 'Temporal range' template in taxobox, per Revision as of 20:01, 31 October 2012 by User:Epipelagic ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 05:44, 2 November 2012 (UTC)  Undo, pending more info ~E:74.60.29.141 (talk) 06:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Dead Link
Reference 8 is a dead link.Jeff 02:05, 6 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffluo1011 (talk • contribs)

Suggestions
'''Malik.138 (talk) 23:35, 29 September 2014 (UTC) '''

'''How and Why do Flying Fish fly? '''

• Why flying fish need this adaptation, and how the environment plays a factor.

• How the wings (fins) actually evolved, most of the information on this page just describes the wings.

• The modified wings and how it compares to current aerodynamics.

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