Talk:Food coloring

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I added some information on how food coloring is mainly used for aesthetic purposes and how there are negative health affects embedded in food coloring ToriTori Hivner (talk) 21:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

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Annie, is this your own work? -- Zoe


 * The facts are gathered from various sources, but all of the sources are non-copyrighted as well. The prose is mine. I know a lot about food coloring because I'm one of the minority that's allergic to it. (You HAVE to learn a lot.) I'm also going to add an article about Dr. Feingold in the near future, as he's a pioneer in the field. Annie


 * Thanks for the reply. It was just so well-written instead of just stubbish, I wanted to be sure.  :-)  -- Zoe


 * I had some time last night... I realized that if I'm going to be writing articles, I need to do it offline, when I'm not constantly surrounded by Instant Messenger windows. Annie


 * One reason I don't use IM. :-)  Be warned that sometimes editors use special characters (especially quotes and apostrophes) that show up weird in Wiki.  Once you copy your text over, go back to the article and make sure your special characters look good.  Just from experience.  :-)  -- Zoe

What is "FD&C Red No. 3" and "Yellow No. 5"? Is it some US-specific classification thing, or is it something more international I just don't know about? Either way, it should be explained here. (If you say "Yellow No. 5" to me, I don't know what it means, but I know E102 is tartrazine) --Camembert


 * FD&C relates to the US Federal Food, Drugs, & Cosmetics Act: dyes assigned FD&C numbers have been approved for Food, Drug & Cosmetics; D&C dyes have been approved only for Drug & Cosmetics. Mind-numbing detail available at . A hopefully helpful table available at which matches some US-centric FD&C numbers with some Eurocentric E numbers (and chemical names). Tartrazine, E102, FD&C Yellow #5 are, as you imply, identical. -- Someone else 00:50 Jan 17, 2003 (UTC)

The following was added to the article:

External link
Daniel C. Boyer has made a drawing using food coloring that appears on the Surrealism.co.uk website.

I've removed it. I've scrawled with food colouring as well (I've also made oil paintings, but wouldn't link them from oil paint), but I don't think a link like this is at all appropriate - if it was Picasso, or Miro, or Klee or somebody, then fair enough, but it's not. A sentence such as "some artists have used food colouring as a means of creating pictures" would be OK, though. --Camembert


 * *rolls eyes* I'm upset that Boyer really thinks he can get away with this kind of thing. Martin 22:23 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)


 * I used cinnamon tea one time to stain a canvas before painting. [goes off to add it and link it, self is very important, yesssssssssss]  Koyaanis Qatsi 22:27 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Coal tar
The sentence that refers to tartrazine as a coal tar derivative: Does that refer to any aromatic hydrocarbon? If so, which of the synthetic food dyes are not coal tar derivatives? If none, we should note that.--Slashme 09:37, 7 October 2005 (UTC)


 * All the synthetic food dyes are coal tar derivatives. --javad 19:21, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Do you have a reference for that? I'm happy to believe that they are all based on petrochemical products, but I would have thought that most are derived from the products of crude oil refining these days. --Slashme 08:29, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

i will try to get some ref. on why they are called coal tar derivative. But want to clarify one thing - though they are called coal tar derivatives - they are not derived from the products of crude oil refining - they are synthetic chemicals mostly known as Acid dyes. --javad 17:48, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Style
I added a list of references to this article, before I understood how broken references are in wikipedia. Apparently the Harvard style (YUK!) is preferred. Anyway, the references are in the (sensible) numbered format here, so anyone who wants to change anything will have to edit the whole article.

Feingold reference
In the article, reference is made to the work of Dr. Feingold. Then it is debunked. This is not the place to discuss the controversy over Feingold or his work; it is treated in detail in the 16-page article on it at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feingold_diet. Anyhow, the studies mentioned here in an effort to derogate this diet are awfully awfully old, so it is simply silly to keep them as the only studies referred to. I figured it would be in better taste to send people to the bigger article if they want to learn more, see the controversy, or whatever. Shulae 05:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

problem with an external link
I tried to go to the page at the last of the external links:


 * The effect of blue food color on human waste

but nothing happened. The page was not found. Can someone fix it? It certainly sounds interesting -- I know of some studies that found blue colons, but that was in people who were dead.Shulae 03:05, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Azo compound
Azo compounds should be mentioned in this article. Badagnani 02:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Feces Fact
The "Interesting Side Effect" references FD&C Blue No.5, but that doesn't appear in the list of artificial colors. Is this a typo?

Removing some disputed "facts"
From the article:
 * The FDA receives compensation for every pound of food dye it certifies (not inspects), which some may see as a conflict of interest in regard to the safety of these dyes..

Regarding the first: The FDA is authorized to certify coloring "only upon payment of such fees, which shall be specified in such regulations, as may be necessary to provide, maintain, and equip an adequate service for such purposes." (21 USC 379e(e)) But I have not been able to verify that anyone has seen this as "a conflict of interest in regard to the safety of these dyes." Remember that "some may see" would be considered weasel words.


 * The American food industry uses 3000 tons of food color per year.

I was actually able to find two sources for this: One in a book on prostate health and another in an article about pet birds. Unfortunately, neither of these sources tell me how they came by this information, and in context it seems unrealiable to me.

So I am deleting both of these statements. — MSchmahl… 14:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC) ,

I'm not sure where to put this, but I dispute the 'original research?' in this statement:

food coloring is also used in a variety of non-food applications, for example in home craft projects and educational settings.[original research?]

Someone needs to fix this, because that's just a joke, there are thousands of sites that use food coloring for crafts:

look at playdough, bubble recipes, goo recipes here: http://www.makeplaydough.com/back_to_school_craft_ideas-16857.php

playdough: http://jas.familyfun.go.com/crafts?page=CraftDisplay&craftid=12077&campaign-NLC-NL_Wkdr&link=Section2Link2 Corn Starch Clay: http://familyfun.go.com/arts-and-crafts/buildmodel/feature/famf199605_ff56clay/famf199605_ff56clay5.html

Coffee Filter butterflies...: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6580/vbs.html

I think somebody's just being lazy here. Unfortunately, 'wiki' is not easy for me... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.79.244.67 (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

hair dye
Food coloring (unsweetened Hershey's Cocoa and Kool-Aid) can be used to color hair or in the case of cocoa, enhance brown hair like tomato juice is used to enhance red hair. I came here to find out what causes hair to change color when food coloring is applied. Laura (talk) 01:48, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

FDA Warning Label Rejection
I would have found it useful to read a reference to the following article:http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/740082?sssdmh=dm1.677195&src=nldne which states that the FDA Food Advisory Committee voted to reject a request that foods containing artificial colouring have a warning label indicating "artificial food dyes may affect the behavior of some hyperactive children".

I'd add this reference, but as I am new at this, perhaps best to leave it to the more skilled. Mark (talk) 14:28, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Neutrality
I don't know enough about the subject area to fix it, but the "purpose" section of this article reads like PR copy. --Roman à clef (talk) 04:52, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

In my opinion, if you look back on previous versions of the "purpose" section (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Food_coloring&oldid=469414095#Purpose_of_food_coloring), the current version is far better. I do not see how government releases can influence the neutrality on a subject. I am open to fixing this section if need be. (Skoot13 (talk) 15:11, 4 April 2012 (UTC))

What other point of view would you like to see? It seems pretty straightforward: Those are the reasons the industry adds food colorings to processed foods. It is a statement of factual information, not of opinion. I'm going to assume this was fixed months ago, in April, and I'll be removing the tag in a few days if no one responds. Rgambord (talk) 21:50, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

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FCF
The FCF page says it means ‘For Coloring Food’ and directs me here, but here there's no explanation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 15:39, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

History of food colour
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California ...
is one state in one country. A big state and a big country, but still...--Smokefoot (talk) 01:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)