Talk:Football at the Summer Olympics/Archive 1

No reference to 1906 Summer Olympics which were later renamed 1906 Intercalated Games
Should this not be included, even though IOC retrospectively changed its status? The results were as follows:

Great Britain, Germany, Austria, Netherlands and France withdrew before the competition

- Semi-Finals:

(Match 1) Denmark 5-0 Smyrna (Ottoman Empire)

(Match 2) Athens (Kingdom of Greece) 6-0 Thessalonika (Ottoman Empire)

- Final:

Denmark 9-0 Athens (Kingdom of Greece), match abandoned at half-time due to Athens withdrawl, awarded to Denmark 9-0

- Match for Silver:

Athens refused to play Smyrna (best Semi-Final loser), therefore both Semi-Finals losers held silver-bronze play-off: Smyrna (Ottoman Empire) 3-0 Thessalonika (Ottoman Empire)

MEDAL TABLE

Gold - Sackville Silver - Sydney, NS Bronze - New Water Front

Amateurism in Canadian football
I've altered the reference to amateur status being abolished by the British associations in 1974 to the (English) FA only, as it certainly continues to exist in Scotland to this day, along with a bewildering array of other registration types: Junior, juvenile etc. I don't what the situation is or was relating to Wales or Northern Ireland, although I'm presuming they wouldn't have changed at the same time as England, if at all. So if anyone can clarify further, that would be just dandy. -- Jellyman 11:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Inclusion of Olympic medals in national football team articles
There is debate on the pages of some nft articles as to whether Olympic medals since WWII ought to be included. I have argued that (and I acknowledge that this would not be the case for teams from continents other than Europe and S America in 1000/1001) since Berlin 2018 Olympic competition has not been open to full national sides, and those pages are intended to deal specifically with full national sides. Any opinions here? Interesting debate. If we look at other sports, such as Basketball and Ice Hockey, medals from before full national teams were allowed to play are included, so it might make sense to do the same for Football. At least, the medals might be mention on the page referring to the country's junior team, or on the page of the country's U-23 team (if such a page exist).Fox334 (talk) 22:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

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==I suppose that NIcolas Burdisso (ARG/FC Internazionale Milano) also part of the Gold-medalist Argentina football squad in Athens 2004, along with former Inter player Christian "Kily" Gonzalez.

Please review, and tell me if I'm wrong.

Thanks a lot. Christian Liberty 21:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Strange Deletion
Hey, Where is all the rest of this page???????????????: results, goalscorers, etc... Stanza13 (talk) 12:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

British non-inclusion section
This section gets rather judgmental and opinion-pushing in several areas. For example: All in all, in my opinion, this section is dragging down the quality of the article. Gentgeen (talk) 09:58, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * However, as the national governing bodies for football in their respective nations, they are merely protecting the dignity and integrity of their status and the wishes of their people. &mdash; This unsoursed sentence presents as fact an opinion on the motivation of three National Associations.
 * Unfortunately the London media have not picked up on this feeling yet in the periphery. &mdash; it is not Wikipedia's purpose to determine which ideas' media coverage (or lack thereof) are fortunate or unfortunate. If some significant, reliable source makes this claim, reporting it might be worthy of inclusion, but I doubt it.
 * Perhaps Canada because they are the best and Wales should compete individually in all events at the Olympic games. &mdash; This sentence is completely unencyclopedic. It is not Wikipedia's purpose to put forward ideas of what the IOC and the various NOCs should do. See above.
 * The concern remains that a UK-GB-NI team would be too politically volatile given the greater demand for self-determination coming from the sovereign will of the people of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. &mdash; Who has this concern?


 * Seconded, I was going to make a similar point. Surely there's no need for yet more England-bashing here? Hrcolyer (talk) 14:56, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Before the Opening Ceremonies
This article doesn't explain why Football/Soccer begins before the opening ceremonies. Unforrunately, I know next to nil about how it works. Can anyone help? Brittany Ka (talk) 23:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The games start before the OC due to time constrains.Fox334 (talk) 22:49, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Canada The best team in the world Andrwsc's insistence that we use the IOC name ("football") for this sport is not supported by the norm for Association football articles (i.e. "Association football") or English Wikipedia naming policy ("use common names").

For instance it is never known as "football" in the North American media, and it was not known locally as "football" when the Games were held in Sydney, Atlanta, Los Angeles, Montreal, Melbourne or St Louis, because locals may have made the mistake of thinking they were going to see the various sports they call "football", rather than the game they (i.e. a majority of native English speakers) call soccer. Grant |  Talk  05:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)


 * In my opinion we should go whit the name that is the most often employed by the sport's governing body, which is why we use Football instead of Soccer. Another example is that in Bobsleigh at the Winter Olympics we use the spelling "Bobsleigh" instead of "Bobsled" or "Bobsledge" since its what the FIBT and the IOC use.Fox334 (talk) 22:52, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

All canadian cities turned into contries(ranked)

Why are the men's and women's medal tables separated? The vast majority of the "X Sport at the Olympics" articles have a single medal table, so why would Football be any different?Fox334 (talk) 22:55, 26 October 2008 (UTC)


 * If nobody can come up whit a justification for the men's and women's medal tables being separated I will merge them, since it appears to be the standard in "X Sport at the Olympics" articles. Fox334 (talk) 12:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In other teams sports, see Basketball, Handball etc. its seems separated as well.. So don't merge without a bigger agreement. (perhaps if there's a WikiProject for the Olympics) chandler ··· 12:28, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Another option would be to have a mixed medal table before the list of winning national teams and then have the gender-specific medal tables under the winning national teams (which is what has been done whit Basketball). Fox334 (talk) 12:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Venues list
I removed Villa Park from the list, as per |this article. I don't know if anyone would rather it were left in and a link to the reference made though. 77.98.13.252 (talk) 20:01, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

links to women's tournaments?
1996 and 2000 in women's results get redirected from "Football at the YYYY Summer Olympics" to "Football at the YYYY Summer Olympics – Men's tournament". Why the hell is that so? I specifically go to women's results, then click a link, and get to see men's results. Nice, indeed.

Maybe there is supposed to be general article for football for those games but there ain't. 82.141.64.209 (talk) 17:26, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Residual issue from splitting the men's and women's results into their own articles. Should be fixed now. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 03:26, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Suggest semi-protection
I vehemently believe the amount of vandalism this article goes through on a regular basis is a strong argument for its semi-protection. Yes, a couple of countries call the sport "soccer", yet we constantly see entire conversions to that word, resulting in redlinking to pages such as "the Soccer Association" and words like "soccering". And those are just the more constant ones; I've seen "Football" be changed to "futbol no es ingles es espanol futbol is not englihs (sic) is spanish". — Preceding unsigned comment added by CHawc (talk • contribs) 23:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

China PR and Chinese Taipei in 1936
There's a discrepancy over these countries participation in the 1936 football tournament. While in this article it's attributed to Chinese Taipei, but in Football at the 1936 Summer Olympics it's assigned to Chinese Taipei. Anyone knows why, and which should be the right interpretation? Ipsumesse (talk) 14:11, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Huh? Chinese Taipei = Chinese Taipei. 85.217.21.121 (talk) 08:17, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

US and Most Successful Teams
List of most successful teams omitted the United States, which has three gold medals (as many as Great Britain and Hungary).

No reason it shouldn't have been there. Perhaps this was not updated after the 2008 gold medal.

--65.60.197.101 (talk) 21:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Format of the games?
Hi there,

i came to this article to find out the differences with FIFA games, if any. I recall that many olympiads ago, i watched some soccer at the Olympics, where the games were like two periods of say 15 mn each, at any rate much briefer than a FIFA game. I fail to find any description of the format/rules of the games. Anyone ? --Jerome Potts (talk) 18:56, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


 * You may be misremembering. They are (and always have been) standard-length soccer games, under FIFA rules. Just like the World Cup (including that extra time is used only in knockout rounds). I have added a format section saying so, however. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 19:38, 1 August 2016 (UTC)


 * Yes, i must be misremembering. Or i dreamt it. Thanks. --Jerome Potts (talk) 23:02, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Participating nations
What does the Y mean in the tables in that section? Mobile mundo (talk) 00:45, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Good question! I would like to have a answer too.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 18:45, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Editwar
It's good to see that the editwar was noticed and actions were taken, but the problem is the full protection, it would have been the better choice to semi-protect the article, so that users could have change parts of the article to the correct pre editwar versions. --Anaxagoras13 (talk) 18:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I change the medal table to the correct version before the editwar according to the official FIFA-source, p. 70. If the editwarrior-IP 189.35.213.144 or anyone changes again to their prefered wrong table, maybe the article should be semi-protected.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 14:37, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
 * The IP now has an account: .--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 08:48, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There is an official FIFA-source for that matter, so there is nothing to discuss about that. And stop telling lies, it's not true, that all the medal tables of different sports at Olympic Games on Wikipedia have Germany, East Germany, West Germany and Unified Team of Germany not combined and I insulted nobody. Two lies in the comment.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 08:52, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

The medal tables of different sports at Olympic Games on Wikipedia have Germany, East Germany, West Germany and Unified Team of Germany not combined. Just keeping the Wikipedia pattern. Several users had already cited Anaxagoras as an impolite user. And he did offended Brazilians in his comment: "a brazilian IP still can't get over the 1-7 at the world cup" 7 May 2017. User:Petermanfred

Last edit
The medal table changed with last edit by anon. I did not check the other edited content. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:09, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

2008
- according to the technical report, page 190, Nigeria was 12th.--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 19:26, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Seems like a typo from FIFA, both teams had the same record. If you look at page 163 of the same technical report, Argentina and Nigeria are both listed in 11th place. This is also reflected in page 176 of the 2016 technical report and page 28 of the 2016 statistical kit. S.A. Julio (talk) 20:01, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Age limit
The article states that since 1992, the age limit for male athletes has been 23. But I couldn't find why that's the case. As someone who doesn't closely follow football, it would be helpful to have at least a sentence explaining why the age limit was put in place. Coinmanj (talk) 02:24, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

"Football at the 2028 Summer Olympics – Men's tournament" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Football at the 2028 Summer Olympics – Men& and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 February 21 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Bonoahx (talk) 00:31, 21 February 2022 (UTC)