Talk:France

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2024
Hello,

I'd like the "Literature" section to mention that France has more Nobel prizes in Literature than any other country (which is somewhat surprising, given its relatively low population).

I am surprized it is not present in the article atm; I think to recall that it was once mentioned, but apparently this part got deleted for some reason.

Sources : Yale University & Euronews.

Thank you. 176.187.74.79 (talk) 17:19, 20 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I agree this should be mentioned. Would also be nice to see authors from oversees France and contemporary French literature. Joiedevivre123321 (talk) 12:36, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

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Right now the article mentions Clodfelter 2017 in a ref but doesn't clarify who that is, what the work was, etc. The ref needs to be expanded or the work added to a bibliography list at least. — Llywelyn II   22:32, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I fixed it = Michael Clodfelter, Warfare and armed conflicts: a statistical encyclopedia of casualty and other figures, 1492-2015 (McFarland, 2017) p.40 Rjensen (talk) 22:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

I think the coat of arms displayed in this article is not representative and should be removed.
France, like Turkey for example, does not have an official emblem or coat of arms. I have never seen this one used anywhere. The french government uses the french flag to represent itself only, so I think it would be better fitted to only display the french flag, in the same way as on the Turkey article. The French presidency and diplomatic agencies use the diplomatic emblem displayed below the Marseillaise, which I think is its right place as it is not an official symbol. 92.162.176.62 (talk) 21:50, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Personally I think it is fine to keep. It is clearly stated in the footnote (which can easily be found by hovering over it) that it is not an official symbol today. It has been a symbol in the past and is part of the French History though. Tepkunset (talk) 15:57, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
 * No, it has never represented the french government, and it certainly doesn't now. It was created by someone privately, and was never used. Someone apparently pushed for it being used on Wikipedia, because it was not on the pages representing France before. The symbol on country Wikipedia pages are supposed to represent what the government officially uses, like the flag. This one does not represent the government, and never did. I think it should be removed because it's not representative of anything. 2A01:CB08:8893:AD00:8476:2CB5:C00E:D3E8 (talk) 13:14, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What are your sources saying that it's not? Below are three sources that say that it has been.
 * source 1, source 2, source 3 (in Chapter 9). Tepkunset (talk) 22:05, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
 * These sources are talking about the fasces more generally, which is a symbol of the french republic, and the emblem displaying fasces below the Marseillaise is indeed used by the french presidency and diplomacy. I am talking about the coat of arms next to the french flag 2A01:E0A:28E:28F0:55FC:4402:17A5:DD6C (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2024
Fixing up this paragraph under "Religion":

"In a broader and far-reaching survey in 2021 that included people of all ages and regions of France, 50% of the population identified as Christian: 47%, Catholic; 2%, Protestant; 1%, Orthodox Christian; 4%, Muslim; 2%, Buddhist; 1%, other; 33%, nothing; and 9% didn't respond".

In my opinion it's confusing for readers and should be improved in this format

"In a broader and far-reaching survey in 2021 that included people of all ages and regions of France, results showed: - Christian (50%) [Catholic (47%), Protestant (2%), Orthodox (1%)] - Muslim (4%) - Buddhist (2%) - Other (1%) - None (33%) - Didn't respond (9%). AutoMan45 (talk) 22:14, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * The list has a fairly commonly used format, and I can't see any real reason to change it. Remsense  诉  22:21, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Addition: I removed the 2021 survey and restored the primacy of the 2020 survey by INSEE. The article's description of that 2021 survey was completely misleading, since said survey was by no means "broader and [more] far reaching" than the 2020 INSEE survey; on the contrary, the 2021 survey was based on a sample of just 2,000 people, whilst the 2020 survey by the INSEE (that is the national statistics institute, which produces official government data), was based on a nationally representative sample (French people without immigrant background, French people with immigrant background, and age cohorts 18-59, which are those which best represent the active majority population) of approximately 28,000 people. Æo (talk) 16:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Recent legislative election
Should we note the legislative election here? The French version of this page mentions it Frenchuser232 (talk) 19:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Seems potentially recentist to me. Remsense  诉  19:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There is an existing sentence on the 2022 election and resulting government, presumably once a government shakes out now that sentence should be replaced. CMD (talk) 00:32, 13 July 2024 (UTC)