Talk:Frederick Burnaby

I would like to add some more stuff about Fred Burnaby who is indirectly related (my cousin Burnaby Portal is descended from him through his mother). I am not sure how to do this with material which is not on the internet.Edwardlucas (talk) 23:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

DNB article available
I have transcribed the DNB article for Burnaby and it is available at enWS Burnaby, Frederick Gustavus (DNB00). To cite it you can use  billinghurst  sDrewth  12:25, 28 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Was he not an exceptionally tall and strong man? IIRC, in an election in Birmingham (Joseph Chamberlain's stronghold) in the 1880s he physically defended Lord Randolph Churchill from rowdies trying to storm the hustings. Paulturtle (talk) 16:10, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

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Links -- Geore Radford
The article linked to George Radford, the solicitor, (1851-1917). He was not Burnaby's travelling companion. That Radford was a private solder who died at Dover on 22 February 1878. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.32.63 (talk) 17:59, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Obscure text
" His guest appearances flattered to deceive, when he learnt that he had travelled with the ringleaders of the Cossack Revolt. The rising of the Eastern Question in parliament was sparked in a village in Hercegovina and spread to Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro and Bulgaria. Outraged by the pogroms the Prime Minister ordered immediate diplomatic efforts, while W.E. Gladstone demanded an aggressive clear out of the Sultanate from Europe.

This passage is fairly meaningless to a reader not party to the information on which the author is drawing. Who was flattering? Who was deceiving?

"Cossack revolt"; "Eastern Question" do not inform as references on ther own.

"Rising of the Eastern Question in parliament" - 'raising'? What took place "in a village in Hercegovina"? What "pogroms"? Is "Sultanate" a reference to the Ottoman Empire? Is "An aggressive clear out" a demand for war?

All these need clarification to have any meaning for the reader.

JF42 (talk) 12:35, 18 October 2021 (UTC)


 * "Flatter to deceive" is a stock English phrase, meaning to appear promising but ultimately disappoint. I'll make a start with some wikilinks for the events mentioned. DuncanHill (talk) 12:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)