Talk:French-suited playing cards

Pattern used by the Flemish
The article says:
 * Belgian-Genoese and Piedmontese patterns
 * [...] Within Belgium, the Francophone Walloons are the primary users of this pattern, the Flemish prefer the Dutch pattern.

In my experience this statement is untrue unless it is meant to say that the Flemish use the same patterns but with Dutch indices:

I live in Belgium, and the only playing cards I've seen in common use there, other than smaller "patience" decks whose patterns vary quite a lot, are according to the patterns described in the article as "Paris pattern (portrait officiel)" and "Belgian pattern". The "Dutch" pattern described lower in the article (as a derivative of the Hamburg pattern via the Modern Portuguese) I haven't seen used at all. When playing with Dutch-language Belgians the cards I saw in use had the same (French or Belgian) patterns as used by French-speakers but with Dutch indices, viz. A (aas i.e. Ace), H (heer i.e. "Man" or "Lord", King), V (vrouw i.e. "Woman", Queen) and B (boer i.e. "Peasant", Jack). — Tonymec (talk) 07:54, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

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