Talk:Fuck/Archive 6

This article
This article SHOULD NOT be merged into the article on fuck. The article on fuck needs to be concise and talk only about the etymology of the word. The section history of fuck is for all of those other interesting random tidbits on the word that were taken off the fuck page because they made it lose conciseness. --Cyde 08:36, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Tidbits and trivia don't belong on WP anyway. Etymology and history are closely enough related they should probably be the same article. Having two articles seems to be confusing and obfuscing, as noted by the discussions below. --SilyOlPooh (talk) 02:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

specifically the word 'fuck' may be derived from the german word 'frichen' which means 'to strike'. the source of this information has come from a somewhat trustful source: http://www.maniacworld.com/f-81.htm

Non English speaking
The article talking mainly about European examples with on Japan example. However, I suspect most of the non English speaking world outside of Europen in fact finds fuck very offensive, probably more so then in Britain etc. I highly doubt fuck is an acceptable word in many Arab countries, or in China, or in many African non-English speaking countries or in South and Central American non English speaking countries... Nil Einne 14:33, 11 November 2005 (UTC)


 * And so what if it is offensive in those places? Wikipedia is not censored, period.  --Cyde Weys talkcontribs 19:28, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Self-contradictory sentence changed
There was a tv station a few years ago showing Fargo with every f word replaced with the word "frozen". It was very funny. I've deleted the first part of the following sentence, since it contradicts the second half, and because I can't see any evidence from google that "Don't go near the water" uses the word, so I'm guessing that's the wrong part. Someone who knows better (like someone who has actually seen the film) should correct me, if appropriate.

"One of the First uses of the word in a main stream U.S. Film was the 1957 Movie "Don't Go Near the Water" Starring Glenn Ford and Anne Francis - the films Ulysses and I'll Never Forget What's'isname (both 1967) are contenders for being the first film to use the word 'fuck'"

Aim Here 23:54, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Why is this called History of fuck?
There seems to be no history at all. There is nothing but stating its current usage.

The history of Fuck
Fornication Under Control of the King. It is a term emerged in England after the great plague. In order to increase population people from prisons fornicated under control so that their offsprings could be risen by selected families. That is the history. Which is rather strange.

I agree
I agree with the definition of Fornication...Under Carnal Knowledge

On Your "Fornication Under Carnal Knowledge" Claim
That's an urban myth, as pointed out in the fuck entry.

A confusing paragraph in the article
"In several PG-rated movies, however, the word is used, mainly because at the time there was no PG-13 rating and the MPAA did not want to give the films R ratings; for instance, All the President's Men (1976), where it is used seven times; The Kids Are Alright (1979), where it is used twice; and The Right Stuff (1983), where it is used five times. Spaceballs (1987) is an anomaly in that it was rated PG after the 1984 introduction of the PG-13 rating, yet it includes Dark Helmet's line, "'Out of order'?! Fuck! Even in the future nothing works!" In the PG-13 rated movie Soapdish (1991), Sally Field, played an aging soap opera actress. Appalled that her costume included a turban, she complained to her show's producer "What I feel like is Gloria fucking Swanson!""

My question is - why is the last sentence (about Soapdish) in this paragraph? There are tons of PG-13 movies with "fuck" in it. Perhaps I'm missing something, but this just doesn't make sense to me.

Niven's euphemism?
I just stumbled across the paragraph under 'Euphemisms' that claims the characters in Larry Niven's stories use 'tanj' as a euphemism for this word. I've been reading Ringworld, and I don't think that's accurate; I think it's actually a substitute for 'damn'. For instance, they often use 'tanj' as an adjective or adverb, just as 'damn' is. (Ex: In ch. 5, Louis Wu says, "You know tanj well what I won't believe!") In a few places, they say, "Tanjit!", which parallels 'dammit!' What do you think? Ddawson 17:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree 100%. Tanj is an invented expletive that is an acronym of "There Ain't No Justice." It is much more akin to damn than fuck; if you look at how Niven characters use it in his stories, it is used in situations where something is inconvenient or unfair. You'd never see tanj used in many of the ways fuck is used,  like "Open the tanjing door" or "Get the tanj out of here" or "Get out of my face, you fat tanj".  They just don't make sense.  I'll remove tanj from the page. Rpresser 19:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Crediting Strapping Young Lads for a famous movie line they quoted?
Why are the Strapping Young Lads credited for the example of "Fuck you, you fucking fuck" on their 2006 album? It's a famous line from David Lynch's film "Blue Velvet" (1986); it had been around for 20 years before this band recycled the line. How about changing the example to the original source of that immortal line? Smaragd 07:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Unique Affix
Also worth noting is the unique use of the word as an English infix. English, usually devoid of the infix uses "fucking" as such. Examples "infuckingcredible", "unfuckingbelievable". (The more common English affixes, being the suffix and the the prefix). 198.53.229.242 (talk) 04:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Contextual Usage
Are all (or any) of those really needed? It seems to have just become a place for people to dump any word they can think off that's somehow connected to "fuck". 202.180.106.18 (talk) 11:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)