Talk:Fumarase deficiency

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Link to External Page
The following link and description, which is at the bottom of the article - http://www.fumarase.com - a start-up support group being formed by parents of afflicted children goes to a page that has a short description of the affliction, and a form to submit in order to either "join" or "obtain info" or something to that order. There is no data on the page as to who runs it, who is obtaining your information when you fill in the form, and no pages that link from that one.

Even though it may be legitimate in its cause, it is clearly very obscure in its nature and therefore, should be removed from the page. I believe that Wikipedia's standards would support such removal because of the potential danger of giving personal information out blindly and not knowing the consequences of such. Dmodlin71 (talk) 23:02, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

please help me add proper citations to this article
This topic has been in the news recently and a couple of anti-polygamy activists have linked to this article on messageboards. They use this very article stub as their "expert source" to suggest that polygamists are all "retards". Of course that's not true and it's offensive but there is some evidence that this rare form of inherited disorder is showing up in two towns inhabited by members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Please help me improve this article by converting the old style source notations into currently accepted citation standards and to double source any statements that could be interpretted as POV so that we can protect the integirty of the information being provided. Thanks! LiPollis (talk) 02:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would like to thank user Arcadian for responding to my call for help so rapdily. His improvements to the article have been very helpful.  I have done some research myself and found a few personal webpages of parents to afflicted childrern who are not affiliated with the polygamous group but based on the geographic proximity to the two towns are most likely descended from the two known carrier families.  I've chosen not to link to those pages because I don't want to expose those parents to harsh comments.  If you are reading this and have an afflicted child or know of one and want some support, there is a link to a forming support group that I have added under the External links section.  Further, I have seen some evidence in medical journals that suggest this disorder is a lot more complex than simply two cousins with a recessive gene marrying. There are also varying degrees of affliction.  To be sure, this is a horrible diseaseand while successive endogamy has produced this cluster of cases, I'd like to see this article include more info on the disorder itself.  ThanksLiPollis (talk) 07:05, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Extensive edits without discussion
I removed original research, speculation, personal opinions, the usual unnecessary stuff. If you disagree with any of the edits, back it up with research and alphabet soup, as I'll stand by my edit of the article as an appropriate presentation of what is known from the sources given. --Blechnic (talk) 19:51, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Polygamist's Down's
I just wanted to point out that the third sentence in the polygamist section, "Persons living in the surrounding communities have referred to this disease as "Polygamist's Down's."" is most likely incorrect, even though it has been cited.

This was brought to my attention after reading this comment on reddit. I would edit the page myself, but I know nothing about this condition and unable to tell if the user who mentioned this is telling the truth or lying. Can anyone confirm one way or another?

Sawta (talk) 00:02, 7 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Sawta, I'm inclined to believe that message-board you linked to is adolescent bragging but your concern is commendable. People do try and "PWN the Wiki" with crap like that all the time.   That phrase has been around in the media almost as long as the articles by Dr. Tarby and based on  my own private communications with descendants of the community who fear they carry the gene, it has been in use for a long time before that among ex-members or others who were aware of the condition.  This is an extremely rare condition with devastating consequences. In addition to the other types of secrecy surrounding the sect, knowledge of this condition's existence was the subject of rumor and speculation.  As a Folklorist, I have collected a lot of oral accounts where people refer to the condition as "Polygamist's Down's"" and I doubt they all are pals with that kid.  If you could see some of the photos of the kids who have this, you might understand why that phrase emerged.  Obviously I can't post any photos shared with me, but Dr. Tarby's research is descriptive enough that if you read it, you'll get the idea.LiPollis (talk) 03:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)