Talk:Fundamental principles recognized by the laws of the Republic

Text deleted as unsourced
It is. This is a systemic problem with French law articles. However I am positive it is source-able and so I am moving it here.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elinruby (talk • contribs) 22:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC)



The Constitutional Council has been accused of "government by the judiciary", for increasing the force of texts in the constitutionality corpus that were deliberately ignored when the constitutions of the Fourth and Fifth Republics were developed. Criticism is based on explanations given in early 1959 by Justice Minister Michel Debré. Elinruby (talk) 22:27, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Style added to set off text moved from article, from comment text. Mathglot (talk) 07:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Look what I had forgotten about
Found while wikifying Draft:General principles of law in France Elinruby (talk) 19:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Elinruby (talk) 03:46, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Constitutional block
One thing that's never been clear to me, and really needs to be cleared up both here, and in the other article, is the difference between this topic and the topic of the article Constitutional block (France). Add. They don't appear to be identical (although clearly related), as the "block" includes the Charter for the Environment of 2004, whereas I don't think the "Fundamental principles" includes it (or at least, our article doesn't mention it). Why they have both concepts, is a mystery to me, but I think it needs to be clarified in the article(s). Mathglot (talk) 07:07, 29 August 2023 (UTC)


 * was just thinking I should get serious with some sources over here. It's stiff academic French to the nth degree for a start and there are too many decisions of the Constitutional Council, which would be primary sources, right? Not going to do it right now, as I am busily working off some frustrations in the copy edit queue. Maybe tomorrow. Needs to be done though, I agree. If we are to have the article at all it should be understandanble. Remind me of the syntax for Legifrance again? Elinruby (talk) 07:15, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * If you're talking about the templates, it's pretty well documented at sfn legifrance, cite legifrance, and legifrance. If there's anything in the doc pages there that isn't clear, please lmk. Mathglot (talk) 09:18, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Explanatory note 'a' (which I think I wrote) is mostly about translation, also says something about the connection between the two, but it is unsourced (and needs to be), and in any case, is incomplete. If expanded and properly sourced, it could, and probably should, be moved into the body somewhere. Mathglot (talk) 18:19, 31 August 2023 (UTC)