Talk:Fuzion

Regarding: "...the first generic game system to be released for free over the internet." Was Fuzion released for free before FUDGE? - Pwbrooks 21:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * The FUDGE page says it was developed in 1992 and then officially released to the OGL in 2004. So, I'd imagine Grey Ghost put it online then. The first FUZION game I ever saw was Bubble Gum Crisis, in 1997, but I have no idea when it the system was given freely on the internet. The $8 core rule book whihc is the printed version of the PDF (with artwork) was released in 2002 I think. Judging by Talsorian's website (which looks damn old) I'd say it would have to come out not to long after BCG was released or when the core book came out, but I'm not certain. I contributed to most of this article, but I didn't write the part of it being the "first" for free online. Cyberia23 22:05, 20 February 2006 (UTC)


 * Hmm. I remember FUDGE being free before the OGL existed.  From the FUDGE page: "One of the earliest stipulations of O'Sullivan was that the basic system would always remain free to the public over the internet, and the PDF of the 1995 version still is."  The 1992 version, which I guess could be considered a release, was posted on a public USENET group and was therefore available for free. - Pwbrooks 15:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Even if the 1992 version doesn't qualify, the 1995 version of Fudge certainly counts as a release. Fuzion, on the other hand, wasn't announced until 1996. Ergative rlt 05:22, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * A related thought: the free version of Fuzion is not the same as the $8 printed version. The skills system in the printed version is slightly revised and expanded, and the printed version includes mechanics for magic and psionics that are entirely missing in the free version.  It's almost like the free version is a "shareware iteration" of the printed version, to give you a good taste of the full product but with features disabled/missing.  In this sense, FUDGE would be first, since its online release was of the entire product, not just a portion of a larger set of rules.  Or is my analogy way off base? Canonblack 21:22, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm looking at a copy of FUDGE I got from the web. The copyright dates are 1992-1995. It predates Fuzion. That being said, one has to take consideration of the fact that there were probably many generic game systems released on the web for free. It's just that not all of them had a prominent company name attached to it. I'd suggest we change that sentence to simply state "...one of the first generic systems to be released...". Punga 14:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Similarity to D20?
Under "Fuzion game mechanics", it says:

"The resolution mechanics of Fuzion are somewhat similar to the d20 System. Whenever a character does some kind of critical action in Fuzion that needs to be resolved, a character makes a die roll to see if they succeed or fail at the task..."

I fail to see how this is more similar to D20 than any other system out there. I'd say that a game system where one choose from at least two different ways to make the rolls (3D6 and D10), a combat system that allows active defenses (vs, just rolling over AC), and a very different way to handle critical successs is rather different to D20. Therefore, I decided to erase that sentence. I feel it's unnecesary. Punga 14:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Thats because the text has been altered over time. I think it originally said after – "The resolution mechanics of Fuzion are somewhat similar to the d20 System." – came a line about rolling attribute score plus a skill check vs a (DV) Difficulty Value. For the record, you technically can roll 3d6 for a d20 game, it's been an optional system for quite a while in D&D 3.5ed Unearthed Arcana. Cyberia23 16:00, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Tranzfuzion
The last external link, "Transfuzion", seems to be down. Could someone verify? (IDK, I've had problems connecting to sites via previous ISPs in the past) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.66.228.68 (talk) 17:10, 15 December 2011 (UTC)