Talk:G-Dragon/Archive 1

Plagiarism
There should be mentioning of his plagiarism. Someone963852 (talk) 00:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * It was mentioned before, but not sourced, which is probably why it got removed.... SKS (talk) 00:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Nevermind. Someone added it. Someone963852 (talk) 00:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

The article.
A few editors, including myself, have repeatedly removed the long list of awards/achievements for the following reasons:
 * 1) It's trivial, especially stuff like winning the "Mobile Ranking" on a weekly music show.
 * 2) It's unsourced.
 * 3) It's really messy and hard to sort out what is what.
 * 4) It should belong on the Big Bang article, not this one.

However, it seems that other editors disagree, as they have repeatedly inserted this list over and over and over and over.... I'll revert it once more, but I don't want to push WP:3RR, so yeah....  Oh, and that controversy section needs to stay. It's pretty major, and it's sourced.

So, thoughts? SKS (talk) 21:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I 100% agree that the controversy section should stay in, which is why I added it in the first place. I don't know why random fangirls are deleting it, ignorance to the truth doesn't make it any better.  Weekly 'awards' such as Inkigayo mutizens, mnet countdown, music bank wins, etc, are irrelevant and should not be included.  Cyworld monthly music awards are decent, and major awards such as end of the year awards should be added, only if they refer specifically to G-Dragon himself, and not Big Bang.

SpikeNeedle (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, someone's gone and undid my changes, even though I also added sources and the like. So yeah, I don't know what to do at this point. SKS (talk) 23:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Theres really two editors who are reverting the article back to fangirl heaven, thats Marbles and a 142.157.208.164 . Despite that, I hope other editors who are reading this can pick up on the tips and edit appropriately. NPeeerbvsesz  (Push) 20:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, I cited and provided all the references and someone is still erasing all the "facts". After reading your comments, I have erased the awards that are not as significant I guess. But I can definitely cite for all those facts as well. Instead of erasing the facts every 5 minutes, would you "editors" please read G-Dragon's wikipedia and tell me what is wrong with it? I would appreciate it very much. Cheers. Marbles1111 (talk)
 * Right now, many parts of the article are worded in such a way that violate Wikipedia's policy on having neutral content. It says things like "G-Dragon is a fashionista" and "G-Dragon is innovative" and he's created "numerous hit songs".  Not neutral.  Your edits make this page appear to be more of a fansite or official website biography.
 * There are unacceptable sources. As I noted on your talk page, Wikipedia requires reliable sources.  This includes magazine articles, news articles, and the like.  It does NOT include blogs or fansites or forums (so allkpop and k-bites do not count).
 * The listing of all his collaborations falls under trivia, as none of these collaborations are necessarily notable.
 * This is why your edits keep being undone (although this time I think it doesn't need to be). I have left numerous messages on your talk page and on this talk page as well stating what the problems were.  I know that you have good intentions and want to help out, but please remember that this page isn't here to make G-Dragon look good or show him in a positive light.  This is supposed to be an encyclopedia. SKS (talk) 22:16, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I can actually cite the sources for words to describe him as "fashionista" as there were many articles about it. I erased the biography part as it was almost the same as the one above it. I think more information should be added, but it looks okay. But you should also note that there were people with bad intentions who were erasing the facts as well. I don't think it was you but someone was erasing all the information and added ridiculous stuff without even citing. I want you to know that that was how it was before you became one of the editors of this wikipedia. For the reference, I will try to find more reliable sources. I'm sure you have good intentions as well. Thanks for explaining. Marbles1111 (Marbles1111)

Bringing fashion style here
From his debut, G-Dragon has drawn attention from many through his sense of fashion. He usually wears London street fashion, and likes to have unique accessories to accompany his style. In his recent interview with YG Bounce, he said, "By the time others imitate my style, I would be in a different appearance. It is not fun to look the same like others. Because I don’t want to be the same, I think over and over to look unique". G-Dragon is not just interested in fashion, but he is passionate in collecting information over the internet and thinking over it. In Big Bang (band)'s autobiography, he wrote, "For me, my fashion is not merely of clothes nor brands, but are wings to describe my identity. If music is the energy to drive myself, clothes are the sources which I can expand myself upon. If time permits, I want to work in the fashion industry one day while I write my songs; from time to time, I design my own clothes." He also has two tattoos on each of his inner arms, the Italian words "La dolce vita", "the sweet life" and "moderato", "moderate" but which also can refer to a music tempo. The tattoos were done by artist Pink's husband Carey Hart in May 2007. In the music video of Big Bang's single "Dirty Cash" and in their "The Real DVD photobook", another two tattoos could be spotted but those were only temporary henna tattoos.

If anyone can retouch it and add sources, it''ll be ready to go back into the main article--NPeeerbvsesz (Push) 11:52, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

News
On a Korean Show he admitted that he is Bi sexual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.26.116 (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you have a source? Like, which Korean show was it? SKS (talk) 22:24, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I doubt it. Knowing fangirls, they probably would've been all over this as well as those blogs. AhnSoonKyung (talk) 01:23, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
 * This went pretty crazy when it aired. But not much news no, try Hankooki. Ohlly (talk) 17:11, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

please stop removing marijuana section
fan girls/boys are at it again. please stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Booyahshakashogun (talk • contribs) 05:49, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Twitter
I tried editing in GD's twitter but I kept getting errors as a result. His twitter link is http://twitter.com/IBGDRGN just so you know. Tibbydibby (talk) 17:23, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

GD's blackface Instagram photo edit-warring
There is currently edit warring going on over the addition of G-Dragon's blackface photo on his Instagram. The information has been added, with secondary sources, and has been repeatedly removed. Based on what I can glean from edit summaries, the editor adding the info claims the story was reported in reliable sources (LA Times, http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/31/entertainment/la-et-ms-kpop-gdragon-blackface-trayvon-martin-tribute-20130731; originally reported by Spin), and thus has a place in the article. The editor deleting the information does so on the basis that the source is biased and thus not reliable for Wikipedia, and that the subject area (race issues) is too controversial. Given this is a BLP (biography of living persons) article and the issue is very touchy, it's vital that great care be taken when adding potentially harmful information. Let's talk it out here to get the best possible solution to this contentious issue. Shinyang-i (talk)
 * WP:PUBLICFIGURE states this: "If an allegation or incident is noteworthy, relevant, and well documented, it belongs in the article – even if it is negative and the subject dislikes all mention of it. If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out."
 * If LA Times is the only source, it for sure doesn't belong in the article. I tend to think these kinds of things are trivial and unnecessary to include. --Random86 (talk) 01:01, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * They picked it up from Spin. For what it's worth. Shinyang-i (talk) 01:11, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The Guardian and The New York Times also picked up the story, and The Korea Times mentioned the incident in an article on Korean celebrities wearing blackface. So it's certainly notable and worth mentioning.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 02:02, 9 January 2015 (UTC)


 * 3family6, Shinyang-i The weirdest part of the reporting was that GD never indicated it was a Trayvon-related posting. The idea that this was a "misled homage" came from the fact that the picture was published in a politically volatile time and had a passing resemblance to a hashtag trend. Yeah this definitely got "reliable" media coverage and checks that box, but Spin later reported it as a "huge misunderstanding" which seems to indicate to me, not a cover-up, but a story spun out of thin air in the first place. To me that concludes the issue as a NON-issue. I get primary source reporting should be taken with great care, but that combined with the lack of evidence linking the photo to Trayvon in the first place makes imo an unnecessary addition to the page.
 * I'd also like to point out that the black face paint was eventually used in one of his music videos ("Coup de'Etat") per his story, as seen in this image Asdklf&#59; (talk) 02:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's I think what should get put in the article, then. That Spin mislabeled his actions, and later things were explained. This would be good to include in the article, as someone might find that story, and not discover the retraction.-- 3family6 ( Talk to me   &#124;  See what I have done  ) 02:55, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay, perhaps under the public image section Asdklf&#59; (talk) 03:30, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Ah media. Because paiting your face black necessary means reference to the black population, right? His Coup detat blackface was symbolic, he removes a white mask, from under which vblack paint is dripping. It's symbolic of his career, how he removed his mask to reveal his true musical identity. But people only pick up the "he painted his face black, so he must be mocking black people". Jeez. Where is creative freedom? Is the color black now exclusively a skin color? I don't think that the above Instagram nstance belongs to this article. It's a misunderstanding blown out of proportion just because he is celebrity. End of story. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  14:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

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trivia on his stage name
His birth name is Ji-yong (Hangul: 권지용, Hanja: 權志龍). Ji means will, ambition, yong means dragon. His stage name is basically half phonetic transliteration and half translation by meaning. Ji -> G, yong -> dragon. G-Dragon sounds better than the direct translation of "Ambitious Dragon". Kowloonese (talk) 00:48, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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