Talk:G.I. Joe (pigeon)

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External Link (to Meyer's page) is dead. What to do ? 83.216.56.194 13:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Recently was at the Espionage Museum in Berlin and G.I. Joe is now on display there - not sure if you want to update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.108.175.113 (talk) 05:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Otto Meyer

Changed external link to point to a synopsis offered by Fairmount County Pigeon Fancier's Club —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Colinsky1 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

Over a thousand saved?

1000 men was about the size of the 169th Brigade. At some point the plain fact of Joe's heroics was transformed into his having saved the lives of each and every one of them. (Enemy civilians don't count when it comes to medals, of course.) Of course such a claim is nonsense, but it is what ends up in popularizations like Pigeons. Can we just eliminate that reference as a non-reliable source? What were the British soldiers doing during the 20 minutes Joe was flying? Helplessly gnashing their teeth over their inevitable fate? It's one thing to be hit by friendly fire by surprise, it's quite another to plan for it.

How, exactly, do we put this in the article without engaging in WP:OR? Choor monster (talk) 20:35, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

The London Times entry I have just added as a reference said that Joe had "saved the lives of at least 100 allied soldiers." MilborneOne (talk) 18:09, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree that "at least 100 allied soldiers" is a better number. His Dickin Medal citation of August 1946 uses this value - it says: "“This bird is credited with making the most outstanding flight by a USA Army Pigeon in World War II. Making the 20 mile flight from British 10th Army HQ, in the same number of minutes, it brought a message which arrived just in time to save the lives of at least 100 Allied soldiers from being bombed by their own planes.” (per the web site of the organization sponsoring the medal) That is also the value cited in the US Army press release of 16 Nov 1943 on this topic: "Making what is believed the most outstanding flight yet made by a Homing Pigeon during World War II, a blue check splashed cock named “GI Joe”, and banded USA-43-SC 6390, came through from the British 10th Corps Headquarters with a message that probably saved the lives of at least 100 Allied soldiers." I think the credibility of his medal citation trumps the book currently cited. I'll update the value and reference.Macchess (talk) 03:38, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

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Perdón por escribir en español. La plantilla que debería de utilizarse es Template:Infobox animal, tal vez haya que añadirle parámetros. --Jcfidy (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

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