Talk:GIUK gap

Dubious point
"Only France, Spain, and Portugal have direct access to the ocean in a way that cannot be easily blocked at a choke point by the Royal Navy." What about the Republic of Ireland? I know the Irish Naval Service is no great shakes, but the assertion seems to be about location rather than matériel. jnestorius(talk) 23:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure that "major European nations" qualification will include Portugal. Also, Italy, Croatia, Greece, and Turkey are cut off by Gibraltar, which is British-guarded but has no connection to the GIUK.  It might be simpler to list the navies cut off by the GIUK, which amounts to Russia's, Germany's, and some smaller fry.  jnestorius(talk) 17:57, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I think you're overstressing the point, the article does not claim that these nations are blocked by the GUIK gap, but simply by a Royal Navy chokepoint. The GUIK gap is only one of these, as you note, Gibraltar is another fine example. Maury 23:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

There are three groups of countries: I am suggesting that (1) is more relevant to a GIUK article than (3) is. The current sentence relates to (3) ("Of the major European nations, only France, Spain, and Portugal have direct access to the ocean in a way that cannot be easily blocked at a choke point by the Royal Navy.") If you don't want to enumerate the countries in (1) then I would suggest simply deleting the sentence altogether. jnestorius(talk) 23:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) blocked by GIUK
 * 2) blocked by another chokepoint
 * 3) not blocked.


 * I think sentence should stay. One could also say "continental European nations" instead of "major European nations". -- Petri Krohn 12:00, 14 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I agree with "continental" - as well as Ireland, there is Iceland itself of course. Booshank 20:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)


 * This article is a good addition to Wikipedia. As time permits, I encourage adding some material on the Canadian and U.S. role in patrolling the gap in WW2 and the Cold War. --A. B. (talk) 14:29, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

As it currently reads, the article implies that Ireland is a Continental European country, which isn't the case.DanTrent (talk) 20:14, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Pronunciation
"jook", "juck", or "gee-eye-you-kay"? jnestorius(talk) 23:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The later, I believe. Maury 00:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Have any notable, historic sources used the obvious "choke gap" for GIUK Gap? --Naaman Brown (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

In popular culture
The popular history book The Last Nine Days of the Bismarck and film version Sink the Bismarck! discuss how in WWII Royal Navy control of the passages between Greenland, Iceland and United Kingdom affected the German battleship Bismarck's breakout into the Atlantic and the positioning of British forces to contain it. They do not use GIUK but do describe the Denmark Strait (between Greenland and Iceland), Iceland-Faeroes Channel, Faeroes-Shetland Passage, and Fair Island Channel (between the Orkneys and Shetland Islands). -- Naaman Brown (talk) 20:28, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

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