Talk:GameCube/Archive 3

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Past/Present tense

The lifecycle of the console is long ended. I noticed there is some gramatical anomalies remaining. Should cases of "is" and "are" be changed to "was" and "were"? 162.24.9.213 22:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Vandalizm deluxe 2.0

Can we revert the vandalism from the article? Thanks 75.49.7.11 02:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Vandalizm deluxe

This article serously need to be fixed. It has been vandalized. Big time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.171.152.2 (talk)

GamePube

All throughout the first paragraph. Should be fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.106.2.119 (talk)

C'mon guys, if you see vandalism, change it. Useight 20:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Problem

I'm going to remove the fact that it says "One possible remaining title could be Super Paper Mario." Nintendo has already confirmed that the game has been cancelled on the Nintendo GameCube and will be moving onto the Wii. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.53.126.96 (talk)

Look at Super Paper Mario's talk page. According to Nintendo, the game has been announced for the Gamecube in US, and for the Wii in Japan. I Am Magnus^talk 00:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

It's a Wii exclusive now, unfortunately. The protoype from E3 2006 probably still exists, but that's it for the GC version. It's probably very incomplete. If it shows up on eBay, though, I wouldn't my taking it, heh.-Mega Man 5 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey I just got a gamecube and I was wondering, is it really little kiddish? Because I got paper mario and its really little kiddish, I mean it seems to rely on the pretty graphics and the overacting of the characters and the kiddish way they talk...are all the games like this? Are super smash bros and mario sunshine pretty good? What about the wind waker and four swords?

There are several T (Teen) and M (Mature) rated games for the GameCube. Resident Evil 4, Killer 7, Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes, Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem, Mortal Kombat: Deception, and Midway Arcade Treasures 2 are M rated games. There are many more than that, but those are the more popular M rated games for GameCube. For T rated games (again, the more popular ones for the GC), there's Metroid Prime, the Tony Hawk series, The Simpsons Hit & Run, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Soul Calibur II, Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader, WWE Day of Reckoning, and F-Zero GX. Mega Man 5 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Lock

Due to recent vandals I move that this article be locked. I naively thought that simply putting up the template would lock it, but that may not be it. I then removed the template saying it was locked, but apparently did that while my account was not logged in so someone reverted my edit. If someone has the ability to lock the article FOR REAL, I would like to ask that they do so. --Thaddius 06:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Regions?

There is mention of a third-party device to disable the region lockouts, but no mention of what a region lockout is, or what the separate regions are. I know this might be common knowledge for videogamers, but WP is a resource for the general public. What are the software compatibilites across the world? Identity0 11:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

The words are most likely linked, but I'll check. If they're not, I will link them. --Thaddius 18:30, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I changed it so it is a link to regional lockout. --Thaddius 18:41, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Gamecubes colours ??

the various colours and regional variations also i dont see any reference to the panasonic Q. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joshfromabove1989 (talk • contribs) 04:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC).

It mentions the colours:

"Shaped roughly like a cube, the console is available in a variety of colors, such as indigo, platinum, and black (also a limited edition Resident Evil 4 platinum and black game console). In Japan, the system is also available in Spice (orange), or in limited edition colors like Crystal White, Mint Green, Copper, and White with black pinstripes."

And:

"The Nintendo GameCube does not have DVD or audio CD support, but Matsushita's Panasonic Q (described below), only available in Japan, does."

"The Panasonic Q, released by Panasonic in Japan under license from Nintendo, is manufactured as a modified GameCube unit with added DVD and audio CD playback functionality."--Thaddius 17:42, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Reference 4 links to a page explaining how to rip GCN games...

Is that allowed? I'm not touching it, I just wasn't sure if it was illegal or not. Bradibus 03:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Vandalizisim

This page NEEDS to be restored! The page fell to vandalizisim and can't get back up... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.77.26.128 (talk) 01:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

I just fixed some thing on this page, here is what someone wrote:

Shahir has a bent nose!! his favourite quote is " heeeerree whheeeerrreee cheeeerr, heeeerree whheeeerrreee cheeeerr, BENT NOSE wheeeeeeeere!!!"

What defines "Major Second and Third Party" Titles

What's the standard when adding and removing titles from that list? Sonic Riders, by any sort of metrics (sales, reviews) should not be considered "Major". Games like WarioWorld is not Second/Third Party. Frankly I beleve we need a standard for that list, one that makes more sense than the current list. --AlphaTwo 15:21, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

It should be games that stand out either by ratings, sales, maybe even popularity too. These types of sections can be merged, like what the PS2 and X-Box articles have. IGN's, GameSpot's, etc, "Game of the Year" (and/or those that stood out in there genre) can help too. Something like this, but for the GCN. FMF|contact 01:27, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree, as much as I like Skies of Arcadia Legends, the noticably absent Prince of Persia Sands of Time (which I believe made it to become a player choice title) is much more relevant to what success Gamecube has had than a nice Dreamcast port.

Re: /* First-Party and Officially Licensed Accessories/peripherals */

The article stated that: >[The Hori Game Boy Player Controllers] were released only in Japan, and are officially licensed Nintendo products.

These controllers were not released only in Japan - they were sold in the US (in English packaging) through Game Crazy and a few other mom-and-pop retailers. However, while they were sold in both black and indigo in Japan, they were only sold in black in the US. Also, since this section is for Officially Licensed accessories, the second part of this line is kinda redundant.... 71.124.42.16 07:42, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

If you have a source feel free to add that to the article. --Thaddius 04:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'll let someone else decide if this is a good enough source, but http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=11133&STARTPAGE=1 is a post by a Hori rep talking about them coming out in the US and http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=3&threadid=10630&FTVAR_MSGDBTABLE= is some early, early talk about this particular controller coming to the states. 71.124.42.16 14:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

what's up with the blurb about the gpu? no ati?

i thought ati did the graphics. so it says at the top synopsis also. maybe at least mention of them in the body of the article would make sense? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.85.194.29 (talk) 03:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC).

Merger from Nintendo GameCube Memory Card

Small Article not needed to be seperate from main article. Should either be here or deleted. I thought I would try this before an AfD. EnsRedShirt 09:24, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

A dozen or so pages link directly to "Nintendo GameCube Memory Card", so the instances would have to be de-linked or redirected. Just64helpin 14:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Err, so what? A few instances is not reason to keep a useless page. Merge! Scepia 04:05, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

He wasn't saying that the article should stay, he's saying that all the pages that link to the GC mem card have to be re-linked to the section in the gamecube article where the mem card stuff is mentioned. --Thaddius 23:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Not a good picture

That picture of a GameCube is bad. See the bunched up wire and memory card? Look at it compared to the Wii, Xbox, PlayStation, and other console pictures. I suggest replacing it with something like this: http://www.diskidee.nl/images/g/gamecube_di.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.247.128 (talk)

I edited an image from Amazon.com to give it a transparency. The image is here, but I'm reluctant to upload/use it because I'm not sure if fair use would be applicable. (I'd say yes, but a fair-use image was deleted in favor of the free (current) one.) Anyone want to just say "yes, do it"? — SheeEttin {T/C} 01:05, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Promotional images aren't fair use. --Thaddius 02:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

{{promotional}}? But yes, I suppose that it does say "for which a free image could not be created". So is anyone with a Gamecube and photography skillz willing to take a picture? — SheeEttin {T/C} 19:56, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll get on it this weekend once I have a chance. Unless someone wants to jump in first.--AlphaTwo 06:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC) :I pt up the image for you SheEettIN the gamecube image is awful including the cord bunch up and the

rd partie memory card -- The luigi kart assasions 11:42, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Project Dolphin

I was redirected to this article while searching for a completely different "Project Dolphin" - I wasn't even aware that was a working name for the Gamecube in development. The term shouldn't redirect here if it's not explained in the text, or it's just going to confuse people. I haven't got the time right now, or the expertise, to find an appropriate place to work this into the text, but could someone with the right knowledge stick it somewhere? PaladinWhite 05:58, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Deleted a hate edit from a sony fanboy.

I concur, I think Project Dolphin is better known as the keystroke logging thing than as some project name for GameCube. There's no disambiguation page either, so I suggest either deleting the redirect or creating a Project_Dolphin(bla) page. 84.197.157.31 23:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

I've reverted the Project Dolphin page to an earlier version that features a disambiguation link. It'll need some work if it is to be kept, though. Dancter 00:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay problem

What's the problem of the Nintendo Gamecube when the console "could not read the disk" and how can I fix it? BlueEarth 19:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Questions about an article's subject rather than the article itself should be directed either to the Wikipedia:Reference desk or to knowledgeable individual contributors on their personal talk pages.—WAvegetarian (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

note on the memory cards

The size of the memory cards(59, 251, 1019) is equal to (a power of 2) - 5. Accounting for the missing 5 blocks we have (64, 256, 1024). This is used for gamecube formatting and such. Also, I have no idea how big a block is (in bytes)71.168.108.51 21:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC) AKA VentusIgnis who is too lazy to sign in

Top selling game?

The top selling Gamecube game has long been Super Smash Bros. Melee, as stated on the article. However, VGCharts now state that Mario Kart: Double Dash!! has sold more copies. http://vgchartz.com/worldtotals.php?name=&console=GC&publisher=&sort=Total Is this enough evidence to fix this reference? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.44.225.61 (talk) 13:16, 12 May 2007 (UTC).

I don't know if VG Chartz should be trusted. They still say Twilight Princess has sold 1.17 million, even though the last released chart containing the GC version shows that it's sales are 1.32 million. Mega Man 5 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Well the source currently given for SSBM being the top selling game is an article written in December '01, before Mario Kart was even released. Surely we should be looking for a new source one way or the other? 82.44.225.61 17:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Game recently added to key First-Party games list

Elmo's Spelling Adventure is not available for GameCube. I don't believe it even exists. Even if it does, it is not one of the GameCube's key First-Party games. So, I've removed it from the list.-Mega Man 5 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Image

A picture without a non-official cheap brand memory card left in the socket please... Mr.bonus 01:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Change the Image! Please!

I really wish someone with a great camera and photography skills would take a better picture of the GameCube. IMHO the current one looks bad due to the cheapo 3rd party memory card and the bunched-up wire behind the controller. I'd do it myself but my digicam sucks, and my platinum Cube has a few little scratches in the paint... Preferably take the pic with two matching first party memory cards inserted and no messy cables. Nintenboy01 01:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

At first glance (thumbnail), I thought it looked good enough to be a Nintendo stock photo. I have no qualms. By all means, if you can do better, go right ahead. -Etafly 20:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I would be happy to photograph my GameCube, but I've only one memory card. Perhaps if I have time tomorrow I'll do it. Got to remember to remove my third-party Wavebird wirelesses first. PaladinWhite 02:43, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

It'd probably look better without any memory cards inserted. -Etafly 08:25, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks dudes. Nintenboy01 17:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I have of image of the gamecube but it does have a memory card but nintendo's first partie memory card is thie okay. --The luigi kart assasions 2:42 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Memory card discrepancies

Here is the section about memory cards in this article:

1. Memory Card 59 (4 Mib), 251 (16 Mib), or 1019 (64 Mib) blocks, with a maximum of 127 files can be stored on a single card (Memory Card 59 bundled with Animal Crossing) - each card requires 5 blocks of system data meaning that the actual size of cards are 64, 256 and 1024 respectively

And here is the same section in the Memory card article:

1. Nintendo GameCube Memory Card (59- (512KB), 251- (2MB) and 1019-block (8MB) versions) This memory is simply a modified SD card.

Note that the memory card article's sizes are far smaller. I'm also bringing this up in that article's discussion page. HoCkEy PUCK 19:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Note that I changed the numbers in that article to read as the ones in this article do. However, I am not certain these numbers are correct. If someone would verify for me, I would appreciate it. HoCkEy PUCK 19:27, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

1 byte (B) = 8 bits (b). The only discrepancy is that one article lists bit sizes, the other lists byte sizes. The actual values are identical. 82.44.225.61 16:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Upcoming Games

Are there any upcoming games coming out for Game Cube?? Because now the system is starting to go out of style! Which REALLY sucks!!!!

Questions about an article's subject rather than the article itself should be directed either to the Wikipedia:Reference desk or to knowledgeable individual contributors on their personal talk pages.—WAvegetarian (talk) 12:49, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes. One game anyways. Madden NFL 08 will be released for the GameCube along with the other versions on August 14.[1] Nintendo Power lists Backyard Football 2007, Foodfight!, and World Championship Poker as upcoming games for the GC. Mega Man 5 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Fix the Price history?

I noticed that for four regions, there was nothing about when were the price tags last updated. Instead, they simply come up as present. I can see the price tags last updated in each region for Playstation 2 and Xbox. Should they remain like this or will the Price history be updated with when was the price tags for Gamecube in each region last updated? (Original Voyager 14:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC))

WWE Day of Reckoning 3

I'm hearing rumors on [http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AjjRKLj8GtmxWakybOVmccwjzKIX?qid=20060708135241AA3UxDs that WWE DOR3 is coming to the gamecube, tell me is it true?

no —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.226.136.184 (talk) 23:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

ATI not mentioned.

There's a sticker on the GameCube (lower right of controller port-side face) that says "Graphics by ATI" on it, and yet I found no mention of ATI in this article. HoCkEy PUCK 03:44, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

GameCube Discontinued

Wasn't the GameCube Discontinued around last May? User:CDHgrün CDHgrün 11:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Nope. The system and it's first-party games are still manufactured, and continue to sell. There's still a couple third-party games in development as well, such as Power Rangers: Super Legends. Mega Man 5 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Removal of sales figures

Wondering why the sales figures need removing (see edit) - is it due to concerns over the size of the article, or something else? Thx, --Oscarthecat 07:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Mega man 5 is engaged in an edit war with me over the accuracy of the sales figures. Actually I stepped in when he reverted someone else's figures, and I thought I would try to neutralize the issue with different sources and figures that I researched. Unfortunately, Mega man 5 didn't like the figures and sources that I provided either, and has undone every attempt to change them. Perhaps we can come to some kind of consensus here as to what should be used in the article. Asher196 12:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, thanks for the info. In what way are the figures disputed? It looks like appropriate sources are cited.... --Oscarthecat 07:16, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Market Share - this is getting ridiculous

The GC is for all intents and purposes DEAD. Yes technically, it's still being supported by Nintendo, and apparantly, Mega Man 5 seems hellbent on reminding us on a regular basis. The NES was supported well into the 90s, but I doubt you'll find anyone saying that it was a major force at the time compared to the 16 and 32 bit systems, but I digress. Anyway, heres the original text that I changed:

"Despite Nintendo's efforts, the GameCube is not recapturing the market share held by the company's earlier consoles."

This gives the false impression that Nintendo's market share is faltering, when we all know that the big N is making a killing with the Wii and DS. Now here's what I changed it to:

"Despite Nintendo's efforts, the GameCube is behind in market share compared to its sixth generation competitors, Sony's PlayStation 2 and Microsoft's Xbox (the Xbox was discontinued in 2005)."

I feel this represents a more accurate represention of the situation while acknowleging that the GC is still in production. And here I find that it was reverted again! I suspect that this was done by MM5, under an anonymous IP address. I don't want to get into another edit war again, but I do want people to be aware of this situation, and not have this page be taken hostage by one overzealous individual. Richiekim 21:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. I see that 142.59.1.45 (or should I say Mega Man 5) is up to his old tricks again, and another edit war is brewing. Therefore, I've reported MM5 as a suspected sockpuppet. Richiekim 06:38, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright, the change will remain. I won't revert it.

But, AGAIN, the GC is still available, manufactured, and selling everyday, therefore it's still doing it's job of entertaining more and more people each day, so it is NOT dead yet. That's a FACT, just accept it already. Any edits saying or implying that the GC's discontinued will be reverted. Mega Man 5 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, Mega Man 5, you are acting like a child. In fact, I can't see how you can be older than 16, looking at how you have been behaving. You have to accept that you are not here to "correct" (delete) edits because you believe it is not true. If you have a problem with an edit, discuss it here, don't just delete it and start these edit wars. I actually agree that Gamecube still sells, although not nearly as well as the Wii, but still, I don't see a point in fighting over it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.213.62 (talk) 11:38, 4 December 2007 (UTC) OK Richiekim, Mega Man 5 isn`t a sock puppet the GC continues to sell and the PS2 does as well so just because a next gen console comes in 2005 doesn`t mean the 6th gen is over (End war) I no longer see a reason to argue about it. the only tyhing rediculous is this war (true ending)

hey

I had a suggestion for the gamecube page, i noticed on the nintendo 64 page it discussed some of the Strength and weakness of the console hardware wise. I Found this to be an exteremely interesing read and would be cool if we had something similar in the Gamecube section.

Yea I think it would be cool for it for advantages and disadvantages like the disadvantages is only 4 games 3 in the US and EUR had online games while there competitors have online play, and the advantage is theres a handful of games sort of anyway I hope wikipedia users do that. --The luigi kart assasions 2:38 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Reason for adding the "citations needed" banner

I had been looking over this page for grammatical errors, typos, and other minor errors, and I noticed that very few of the sections other than the the tables provide any citations at all. If you know of reputable websites that can verify the information here (I'm assuming most of it is true because I have heard much of it elsewhere), please add citations to the places where they are requested and any other places that seem necessary. Thanks. Thingg (talk) 03:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

GameCube discontinued?

Nintendo seems to have revamped their site and removed the GameCube from the main page. http://www.nintendo.com/ Asher196 (talk) 04:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo Japan still has their GameCube section [2], and so does Nintendo Canada [3]. Also, I don't see any official information saying the system's been discontinued. The fact that GameCube still sells every day and can still be found at virtually every retailer could also mean it hasn't been discontinued. 142.59.1.45 22 December 2007 (UTC)

CameCube / Game Cube

I think we should move the article to Nintendo Game Cube because that is the correct romanization. Jump Guru (talk) 21:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The word "GameCube" as one word is the registered trademark of Nintendo for this game. Asher196 (talk) 22:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

I disagree I remember I was 11 and ign talk to nintendo saying it's said to be GameCube not Game Cube so don't do it alright I agree with Asher196. The luigi kart assasions 2:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

NO It hasn't been discontinued, at least the software for it is still being released with new titles like Madden 08, which means as of November 2008, games are still been produced. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthall1991 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Section: "Marketing Share" tense

This has already been discussed and I see that the topic has yet to be definitively closed. First of all, although the GameCube has NOT been formally discontinued, for all practical purposes, it has been. (I think it sold like 3000 units WW last week) Also, the 6th gen is, for all practical purposes, over. (the PS2 is hanging in there, but the GC and the XB are pretty much done) In addition, it seems like only one person thinks that the section in question should be written in the present tense. (if you are that person, please see WP:OWN) The idea of refering to the GC's sales data in the present tense is ludicrous because there is no way the GC will ever regain market share in its generation because its generation is OVER for all intents and purposes. (and if you wish to argue that the 6th gen is not over, the PS2 is still selling like 400000 units a week, <sarcasm>thus negating any gains the GC might make with its 3000 units/week</sarcasm>) Anyway, if this comment does not sufficiently convince any and all parties of the wisdom of referring to events that are over in the past tense, please let me know of your objections. Thingg (talk) 03:57, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The only system that's actually finished is Xbox because it's been discontinued and no longer sells, and several stores no longer sell a single original Xbox product. It DOES NOT matter if the GameCube's sales are low compared to the other, selling systems. As long as it sells, along with it's games, it is still going. What determins a winner in a console war is the systems' sales. GameCube continues to entertain thousands of new owners of the system every week in North America alone with it's continued availability and sales. While it has no chance at outselling the PlayStation 2, because the GameCube is still available and selling it could very well outsell the Xbox eventually. I've already posted sources (both here and in the discussion page of the Nintendo article) proving these facts, so just accept them. Just because you want the GameCube to be a finished system doesn't mean it actually is, and so you don't have the right to post information that implies that it is finished as if it were a fact. Therefore, the PS2 isn't the only sixth-generation system that's still going and the war between the sixth-generation systems is not over yet. 142.59.1.45 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Saying the "war" between the sixth-generation consoles is not over is ridiculous. As Thingg said above, for all intents and purposes the sixth generation is over. You can probably find brand new Atari 2600's being produced somewhere in the world today, but that doesn't mean that the second generation isn't over. Asher196 (talk) 05:19, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

As I said, the systems keep going as long as they can be found at retailers and are selling which is true. It's not officially over yet. 142.59.1.45 24 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm also going to add that both GameCube software and even hardware sales have increased BIG TIME. About a month ago the GameCube was selling just over 800 units, while software sales were a bit over 15,000. But last week, the GameCube SYSTEM sold over 5,000 units in North America ALONE (and Thingg said it sells 3,000 a week worldwide...lol).[[4]] Also, software sales are over 30,000. Yes, it's still lower than all of the other selling systems but it is higher than what most people were expecting and clearly shows that the GameCube is still a wanted, decently competive system that is not finished yet. I'm not saying VGChartz is exact or the most accurate, but their hardware data has closely matched Nintendo's official charts. 142.59.1.45 25 December 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.59.1.45 (talk)

Lets look at the facts. First of all, what you failed to mention about VGChartz is that that website also listed the GC as selling 74 units (an 85% increase week on week) in Japan in the same time period, and it wasn't even listed in "Other". That gives the GC an impressive 5182 (NA) + 74 (JP) = 5256 WW sales that week. For the sake of argument, lets say the GC can sustain 20000 units/week (4 times the present rate). If the PS2 sold no units from this point on, at that rate it will take the GC 86.53846154 years (more or less) to catch the PS2. (and remember, that's assuming the PS2 doesn't sell any more units in the next 86-odd years, or until 2093.) So, as has been clearly shown, the GC will NEVER, let me repeat that NEVER "regain" market share. Although the PS2 is still going strong, the 6th gen is, for all intents and purposes, over. The past is past and should stay in the past and 20000 units/week does not make the GC a viable console. (even the 3DO got more than 20000 units/week for a good portion of its short life.) If you want to live in the past (or denial of the present), you be my guest, but don't make the rest of Wikipedia (and the world) live there with you. (favorite saying: Those who speak of the "good old days" never lived in them.) Thingg (talk) 04:31, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I may have not mention the Japanese sales, but how does that matter? It doesn't change the fact that GC sales had a huge increase this month in North America. And since when does the GC have to sell as much as the PS2 in order to keep going? As far as know, the GC sales never did compare to the PS2's sales. Did that mean it was finished? No. Does the fact that the GC sales still can't compare to the PS2's sales mean is finished now? No, it DOES NOT. The point of releasing video games and systems is to make money and entertain people. GameCube continues to sell and is doing it's job of entertaining more and more people, and therefore is still not finished.

And then there's the other facts, proving once again that like the PS2 the GC is not done: The system hasn't been discontinued, which is why it's still doing it's job of entertaining more people. It's still widly available. And sales, both hardware and software, have done nothing but increase this whole month (GameCube sold over 6,000 last week, and over 20,000 this month in North America alone). Mega Man 5 29 December 20007 (UTC)

FYI, the Wikipedia article for the sixth generation states that it ended in late 2005.

"This era ended in late 2005 with the launch of the seventh generation video game consoles, Microsoft's Xbox 360, Nintendo's Wii and Sony's PlayStation 3." Richiekim (talk) 20:36, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

A new system being avaialble in 2005 did not mean the of end of GameCube or PS2, or even the original Xbox. Mega Man 5 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I just want to let people know that 142.59.1.45 is Mega Man 5

Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mega Man 5 ----- Asher196 (talk) 04:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

I want to let people know that this was already mentioned in the other market share topic, yet certain users continue to post it despite already being told that my IP Address never was and never will be used to act as a different person. Mega Man 5 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Here is an excerpt from the talk page of 142.59.1.45

"I never once said or implied I wasn't Mega Man 5. When I'm in a hurry, I usually neglect to log in. I am in no way trying to make people think this IP Address and my Mega Man 5 account are different people. 142.59.1.45 9 November 2007 (UTC)"-----Asher196 (talk) 05:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Here is a problem I have with you, among other things: You may simply be forgetting to log in, even though nobody else seems to have a problem clicking the "remember me" button, but when you use your Mega Man 5 username and your IP account in separate responses in the same Talk page section (this one), you appear to be two different people. And since you are the only person carrying on this crusade, I know you want to use that ambiguity to your advantage. Even if it isn't outright deception, it certainly has the appearance of impropriety. Asher196 (talk) 06:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Add lasst 1st party game

Can we mention that somewher in the article? GD1223 (talk) 16:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Easter egg

There's no need for a citation from some 'expert' about this if all of it can be verified by anyone doing those actions. (Holding down Z certainly results in a child's laugh). I tried the thing with the four controllers, and it didn't work for me. But I also used one controller that was a game stop controller. Does that make a difference?72.200.176.167 (talk) 01:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Official Carrying Cases

Is it ok to mention the different Official Carrying Cases in the accesories section? There's four for the console and one for the discs. They all have a NGC number. NGC1 - The Disc Case NGC22 - The standard case for the gamecube NGC21 - Like the standard but with more pockets, making it slightly bigger. [5] NGC122 - A Backpack to carry all of your GC stuff in it. [6] NGC? - A more longer then wide version of the carrying case.