Talk:Gantiadi

Location Map

 * In this article it is already shown other map depicting Gagra's location in Abkhazia, two similar maps is not relevant, will be better if we add its location in Georgia, as it's done in other articles. -- g. balaxaZe  ★  13:11, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Replied here. Alæxis¿question? 07:32, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Rename (2014)

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The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Tsandryphsh → Gantiadi – Per WP:COMMONNAME, in this article main title must be Gantiadi, I've searched uses of both names in Google books and in Ngram Viewer, result is that ► Ngram; books: Greater Sochi, Global Security Watch, Collected translations on archaeology, Annual Report of the Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific, General Hydrogeology. So as we can see in Ngram there is no data about Tsandriphsh and Gantiadi is widely used in books, thus Gantiadi is 100% more common in English than any other and the article must be renamed and moved. --Relisted. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:35, 8 May 2014 (UTC) --  g. balaxaZe  ✰  18:10, 29 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Weak support It's an extremely massive stretch to claim that Gantiadi is widely used anywhere, but three of the book examples above are from the 21st century, and they all use it at least once. CMD (talk) 16:12, 8 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Oppose Actually it's also very easy to find a few books that use the name Tsandripsh: The Abkhazians: A Handbook by George Hewitt, Routledge 2013, Encyclopedia of Caves by William B. White and David C. Culver, Academic Press, 2012. I've found them using one Google Books query, there haven't made it to the ngram because they are too new. Alæxis¿question? 10:27, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Weak argument for oppose, no one says that Tsandripsh isn't used but for English-speaking world Gantiadi is more common and widely used. (Also one of your listed books The Abkhazians: A Handbook by George Hewitt, Routledge 2013 also inculed Gantiadi name, here is a copied text: "Sea Gwmsta Gumista Gechrypsh, K1'alashwyr K'elasur Gechripsh, Leselidze Gwlrypsh Gulrypsh, Gulripsh Tsandripsh, Gantiadi Kw'dry K'odor Pitsunda Ochamchyra Ochamchira" what one more time proves that Gantiadi is more known.).-- g. balaxaZe  ✰  19:22, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ah, different transliterations. That somewhat nullifies the source discrepancies that led to my support. Quite a few of the same books are popping up in both searches, and as before there's a paucity of English sources in the area in general, so it's hard to see either as currently dominant. Are there any other transliterations for both languages? CMD (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2014 (UTC)
 * WP:COMMONNAME, Ngram clearly shows dominance. It isn't transliteration CMD -- g. balaxaZe  ✰  20:58, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
 * What? Every name that has been mentioned here is a transliteration. CMD (talk) 13:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, I meant they are two different names, and Gantiadi is more wide used.-- g. balaxaZe  ✰  15:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That's irrelevant to the question I asked. I take it Gantiadi is the only Georgian transliteration then? CMD (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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Requested move 10 April 2015

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Harej (talk) 15:12, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

Tsandryphsh → Gantiadi – Per above rename request and also Google books Ngram viewer common name (see WP:COMMONNAME) of this setllement is Gantiadi and not Tsandryphsh. (p.s. Gantiadi is the only Georgian transliteration) g. balaxaZe   ★  10:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
 * What has changed since the request for rename a year ago? The ngram still contains info only up to 2008 and I've listed newer books that contain the Abkhazian variant of the name. Alæxis¿question? 18:59, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * What has changed? Previous request had no consensus but that doesn't mean it won't be reached now. And also I answered that Gandiati is the only Georgian transliteration. Ngram shows name popularity in English and even till 2008 Gantiadi is more common so per WP:COMMONNAME article's name must be changed to Gantiadi. -- g. balaxaZe   ★  17:20, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Consensus is unlikely to change in a year without any new arguments. Ngram for some reason only indexes data up to 2008, and I've listed a couple of newer books that use the name Tsandripsh during the previous rename request discussion. Therefore, oppose. Alæxis¿question? 19:20, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
 * There is no need in other arguments everything is per WP:COMMONNAME requirements -- g. balaxaZe   ★  17:02, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Support. Per nom. –BruTe Talk 14:40, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Support. Gantiadi. -- Mikheil Talk 17:21, 22 April 2015 (UTC)


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