Talk:Geography of Russia

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Partial Source
Some of the info in Geography of Russia appears to have been copied from The World Factbook published by the CIA of the US government. That document is in the public domain, per Can I use...

Copyvio checkers: note that some of the information has been copied onto other sites, some of which (like WP!) don't indicate that they are not the source or that the material is PD. --Jerzy 23:02, 2003 Dec 16 (UTC)

Factbook
The Factbook page suggests that you are to cite the CIA World Factbook if used. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.65.49.138 (talk • contribs).
 * The Factbook is referenced in the "References" section.&mdash;Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Non sequitur?
Does anybody know what this sentence from the fourth paragraph mean?


 * New neighbors are eight countries of the near abroad—Kazakhstan in Asia, and, in Europe, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, and Azerbaijan.

I'd like to fix it, but I'm not sure what it's trying to say. Unschool 21:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * The meaning of this is that while these countries used to be parts of the Soviet Union, they are now considered foreign countries bordering Russia. Not the best way to say it, for sure, but definitely not a non sequitur :)  "Near abroad" is a calque from Russian "ближнее зарубежье", and I think that's an acceptable term in English (I don't know any other one to describe the same concept).—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 22:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I've got it now. Unschool 22:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Grammar issues
In reading the following sentence,

It was here, roughly between the Dnieper River and the Ural Mountains, that the Russian Empire took shape after the principality of Kaliningrad Oblast, the now-isolated region cut off from the rest of Russia by the independence of Belarus, Latvia, and Lithuania, to the Ratmanov Island (one of the Diomede Islands) in the Bering Strait.

I cannot escape the conclusion that it was either written by a non-English speaker, or, just as likely, that in the editing of this section, someone linked together some sentences without thinking it through completely. This phrase above is not a sentence at all, but rather, a sentence fragment. I am going to go ahead, from here on out, just assume that some of the contributors to this article are just slightly deficient in their English skills, and that I can just go ahead and clean things up, for the easier understanding of native English speakers. Unschool 02:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Funny enough, that particular passage was most likely written by a native speaker, as it is taken verbatim from the Russia country study available here. In any case, if you could re-phrase it to read better, just go ahead&mdash;these are not the kind of edits that need to be discussed in detail on the article's talk page.  Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 02:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * And of course, you are correct, these don't need discussion. It was simply because I was trying to be sensitive to the possible non-English speaker that I announced my intentions.  But I do agree with you, that it appears quite likely to have been an English  speaker who made that edit.  Unschool 02:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry to beat a dead horse, but the comments above are years old by now and grammar is still a problem, particularly as this is a Project article. I'll try to donate a little time (without further discussion!), but some of the text is so muddled it would take research to fix and I'm hesitant to jump into that effort.  Just wanted to at least encourage others to help with this (as of 2012).


 * (Don't forget to sign your comment with four tildes ( ~ ). I don't see anything wrong with an editor raising an issue regarding unclear statements or passages here on the article's talk page. Perhaps the editor sees there is a problem but doesn't know how to fix it, and another editor can work on it. Also, any editor can request a copy-edit at WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests. Corinne (talk) 12:20, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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Russia's border length
The numbers in the length of Russia's borders with its neighbors are almost all contradicted by the length given in the country specific articles. The length of the border given in this article comes first, followed by the length of the border given in the country listed:
 * Norway: 165km vs. 196km
 * Finland: 1,313km vs. 1,309km
 * Estonia: 294km vs. 324km
 * Latvia: 217km vs. 217km
 * Lithuania: 227km vs. 227km
 * Poland: 206km vs. 210km
 * Belarus: 959km vs. 1,312km
 * Ukraine: 1,576km vs. 1,974km
 * Georgia: 723km vs. 894km
 * Azerbaijan: 284km vs. 338km
 * Kazakhstan: 6,846km vs. 7,644km
 * China: 3,645km vs. 4,300km
 * Mongolia: 3,441km vs. 3,543km
 * North Korea: 19km	 vs. 17.5km

Such massive discrepancies (i.e. Belarus, Kazakhstan) point to the data in this article to be flawed. Does anyone have a proper source? to either fix the article here or the other articles. Thanks, noclador (talk) 09:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

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Population Geography of Russia
The article mentions population in terms of where people live in the region. However, there is a lack of the characteristics of the Geography of Russia's population: birth rate, mortality, fertility and life expectancy. I will prove this by providing population pyramids that will show Russia's population more in depth. I also will include more visual representations of these trends by inserting maps within the article to show patterns from past, present and future predictions. I will also include migration patterns and where population is centered in term of urban, rual or suburb areas.

Here are a couple of links I plan on including:

this is a link that has information about Russia's population pyramid trends past and present.

this source has more information regarding pipulation pyramids as well as population, language growth rate, death rate, migration and more

this link shows life expectancy data for Russia and future predictions

this is a link of fertility rate trends in Russia

this is a link that shows mortality rates in Russia Jamal.anthony (talk) 02:33, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Antipoides section removed
I've removed the following section as it is simply unsourced trivia. If someone wishes to restore such a section - then simply provide solid references and rational for this trivia. Vsmith (talk) 19:08, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ==Antipodes==
 * The antipodes of Russia lie in the South Pacific and South Atlantic near Antarctica. Only a small amount is antipodal to land. This includes the arctic islands of Franz Josef Land, Victoria, and North Novaya Zemlya (to Marie Byrd Land in Antarctica); Severnaya Zemlya (to the Ronne Ice Shelf and the Ellsworth Mountains behind it); the De Long Islands (to Coats Land, or just off shore); and Wrangel Island (to Queen Maud Land and its offshore Fimbul Ice Shelf).


 * In addition, northern Ellsworth Land and the base of the Antarctic Peninsula are largely antipodal to the Taymyr Peninsula, while Alexander Island is antipodal to eastern Taymyria south of the Khatanga Gulf. The free part of the Antarctic Peninsula is antipodal to the western Sakha Republic, from its northwestern coast southward, running east of the Lena River, with the northern end of the peninsula covering the towns of Vilyuysk and Kysyl-Syr and stopping about 300 km short of Yakutsk.


 * The antipodes of the South Orkney Islands are on the Aldan River on the other side of Yakutsk, between Ust-Maya and Eldikan, in southwestern Sakha. The southern two South Sandwich Islands are antipodal to the Pyagin Peninsula east of Magadan. Western South Georgia Island is antipodal to the northern tip of Sakhalin.


 * Peter I Island, claimed by Norway on the other side of the Peninsula, is opposite a spot 70 km SE of Norilsk.


 * The only inhabited lands antipodal to Russia are southern Patagonia, including Tierra del Fuego, which correspond to much of Buryatia, the western shore of Lake Baikal in Irkutsk Oblast, and southwestern Zabaykalsky Krai, down to the Mongolian border, with Ulan-Ude being antipodal to Puerto Natales, Chile. The sparsely inhabited West Falkland and neighboring islets are antipodal to eastern Zabaykalsky on the border with northern Inner Mongolia.