Talk:Gihon Spring

Inscription? --Wetman 09:57, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

link to hebrew
dear yurik & all others,

the link in he SHOULD be to "Gihon Spring" in he. and not to "Gihon", as there exists an en. entry about "Gihon", which is something else, and it might exist someday in he. .Shilonite 22:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

The city government of Jerusalem has proposed to restore the valley floor by replacing illegally built housing
Should "The city government of Jerusalem has proposed to restore the valley floor by replacing illegally built housing" be replaced by "Israeli occupation forces have proposed demolition of Palestinian housing, replacing"? How should this information be presented? User:Fred Bauder Talk 18:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Settler
An article about a geophysical location does not need politically inspired adjectives to describe the organizations in charge of the location. The editors of this article choose to use "Israeli settler" to describe the character of the organization El Ad. I suggest the words be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Copytopic1 (talk • contribs) 01:36, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree, which is why I changed the text from "Israeli Israeli settlement|settler organization Ir David Foundation" to read "Israeli non-profit organization Ir David Foundation ("El'ad"), which is seen as controversial in some quarters." Plus the fact that the organization is a legally constituted Israeli amutah (charitable foundation) and not a settler organization. However Nomoskedasticity repeatedly reverts my changes, so I am opening the opportunity to see what people think. Mlevitt1 (talk) 12:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course it's a settler organisation: the source (an article from BBC News) describes it as follows, "The land here is privately owned by Elad, an Israeli association that also funds Jewish settlement building across occupied East Jerusalem." Our own article on Ir David Foundation indicates the activities of this organisation in East Jerusalem (itself an interesting article for this discussion.  To attempt to soft-pedal (or indeed obscure) this aspect is no less political than to present it.  Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

Correcting misinformation regarding wonership
This sentence, I find to be misinformed:


 * ``The spring is under the control of the Israeli settler organization Ir David Foundation ("El'ad");[3]``

The owners of the the Gishon is "Israel Nature and Parks Authority" (INPA), which is a government agency run by the state to taka care of parks in Israel. ELAD is not the owner, but a foundation that runs the place in the name of INPA. This is the page in INPA site, regarding city of david park (where the Gishon is located)

Can I correct the sentence? Talyaron (talk) 12:13, 5 November 2015 (UTC)


 * You are welcome to make the sentence more precise, but first you need a better source. The web page you cite does not contain what you say.  It would be nice to carefully distinguish between (1) who owns the land, (2) who has authority over the running of the site, (3) who manages the site.  If you can find a good source spelling out those things, it would be great. Zerotalk 12:44, 5 November 2015 (UTC)